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In regards to Yellow triggers, whoever keeps changing Blue Mages trigger to Seedspray needs to stop. Seedspray is a physical BLU spell and is NOT a trigger and Bad Breath is, so please stop changing it.

In regards to whoever made the above post... http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af354/MizuharuofRamuh/Seedspray.png Like he said, it's not Bad Breath. Mizuharu

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Proposing that the page be moved to "Stagger". That's the official name, used in-game, in the text log. It doesn't say, "Your attack targeted the fiend's weakness!" It says, "Your attack staggers the fiend!"--Blue Donkey Kong 18:03, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

I believe that this would be unnecessary, as when targeting an enemy's weakness while possessing Abyssite of Discernment, the message received is more akin to "The monster is weak against Wind attacks!" or "The monster is weak against Greatsword Attacks!" --Jaela 18:37, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

As the page is named now, it's a guessing game as to whatever one of the wiki's editors arbitrarily named the page about Staggering enemies. It's not realistic to assume that people will guess "Weakness Targeting" when they want to know about Stagger, and the only reason I ever found this page was because it was recently edited and in the news feed. If not for that, I would've had to follow a series of links till I finally found what I wanted. As for your argument, that logic would be like naming the Bio (Status Effect) effect page Deals dark damage that weakens an enemy's attacks and gradually reduces its HP, instead of naming the page by its name.--Blue Donkey Kong 10:00, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Why not make it so that searching for "Stagger" redirects to this page? I don't know how to do it personally but I've seen it done on other wikis. As the argument is that it's leading to inaccurate searches, that would fix the problem, would it not? --Batousai7910 09:24, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

I've already made Stagger redirect to this page, but it should still be moved to the proper name.--Blue Donkey Kong 19:07, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

'Weakness Targeting' is a much more descriptive name, and the common term 'Stagger' redirecting to it works perfectly. In most SE releases about the subject they use the term weakness, and it's only when the weakness is triggered that it becomes stagger. I'm all for keeping it just as it is now (Stagger redirects to Weakness Targeting). A wiki is not a competition to create the fewest number of pages. --Ranzear 22:20, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

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Tahngarthor TALK - 01:39, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
I will not move the page. Stagger is 1) not official terminology, 2) not commonly used by any players I have seen and 3) confusing when NPCs in the game use the term weaknesss. "Weakness Targeting" may be a bit awkward, but I certainly can't understand why "stagger" is better.

1. Stagger is official terminology. SE writes battle text. Players do not. 2. I'll have to check naming conventions again, but I don't think player nicknames matter when it comes to naming pages. If so, "proc" would be the most appropriate nickname for stagger, at least for the typing habits of my server. 3. This argument makes me think of how Abdhaljs Isle-Purgonorgo used to be named "Diorama - Purgonorgo Isle" on this site. The only excuse for that fabricated name was that the real name is very hard to spell.--Blue Donkey Kong 02:27, February 15, 2011 (UTC)


According to the Official Glossary of Game Terms on SE's web page at [1], the term for this is "weakness triggering" Mifaco 10:23, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

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