Talk:Pankration/Pit Monsters

Black Puddings and Detectors

The family names used in pankration are flan and spheroid. Both family categories currently have a request to be moved on their page. Please do not revert them.

If there are other family names listed incorrectly, mention it here and on their category pages as well.

category:Detectors > category:Spheroids

category:Black Puddings > category:Flans

category:Big Birds > category:Rocs

--Seedling 15:28, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

FP @ level

I'm gathering all known FP@level info in this table, to avoid cluttering the article page.
Bold numbers indicate an increase in FP.
If you see data that is inconsistent, mark them in red and make a note below.
Italic numbers are presumed.
Green rows indicated the BASE_FP and FP/LEVEL have been found.

Family	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16	17	18	19	20	21	22	23	24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36	37	38	39	40	41	42	43	44	45	46	47	48	49	50
Acroliths	50	50	50	50	50	50	50	50	50	51	51	51	51	51	51	51	51	51	51	52	52	52	52	52	52	52	52	52	52	53	53	53	53	53	53	53	53	53	53	54	54	54	54	54	54	54	54	54	54	55
Ahrimans					63
Antlions	45	46	46	47	47	48	48	49	49	50	50	51	51	52	52	53	53	54	54	55	55	56	56	57	57	58	58	59	59	60	60	61	61	62	62	63	63	64	64	65	65	66	66	67	67	68	68	69	69	70
Apkallus
Bat Triplets				71	72	72
Bees	60
Beetles
Birds								73
Bombs	75	75	76	76	77	77	77	78	78	79	79	79	80	80	81	81	81	82	82	83	83	83	84	84	85	85	85	86	86	87	87	87	88	88	89	89	89	90	90	91	91	91	92	92	93	93	93	94	94	95
Buffalos	40	40	41	41	42	42	42	43	43	44	44	44	45	45	46	46	46	47	47	48	48	48	49	49	50	50	50	51	51	52	52	52	53	53	54	54	54	55	55	56	56	56	57	57	58	58	58	59	59	60
Bugards
Chigoes							74
Clusters									71
Cockatrices								57
Coeurls	55	56	56	57	57	58	58	59	59	60	60	61	61	62	62	63	63	64	64	65	65	66	66	67	67	68	68	69	69	70	70	71	71	72	72	73	73	74	74	75	75	76	76	77	77	78	78	79	79	80
Colibris	65	65	66	66	67	67	67	68	68	69	69	69	70	70	71	71	71	72	72	73	73	73	74	74	75	75	75	76	76	77	77	77	78	78	79	79	79	80	80	81	81	81	82	82	83	83	83	84	84	85
Corses
Crabs	60	61	61	62	63	63	64	64	65	66	66	67	67	68	69	69	70	70	71	72	72	73	73	74	75	75	76	76	77	78	78	79	79	80	81	81	82	82	83	84	84	85	85	86	87	87	88	88	89	90
Crawlers							58			60
Diremites	55	56	56	57	57	58	58	59	59	60	60	61	61	62	62	63	63	64	64	65	65	66	66	67	67	68	68	69	69	70	70	71	71	72	72	73	73	74	74	75	75	76	76	77	77	78	78	79	79	80
Dolls	60	60	60	60	61	61	61	61	61	62	62	62	62	62	63	63	63	63	63	64	64	64	64	64	65	65	65	65	65	66	66	66	66	66	67	67	67	67	67	68	68	68	68	68	69	69	69	69	69	70
Dragons						24		25
Efts
Evil Weapons	70	70	70	70	71	71	71	71	71	72	72	72	72	72	73	73	73	73	73	74	74	74	74	74	75	75	75	75	75	76	76	76	76	76	77	77	77	77	77	78	78	78	78	78	79	79	79	79	79	80
Flans								31	32
Flies
Flytraps	55						59		60		61	62	62	63	63	64	64	65																																85
Funguars
Ghosts				29
Giant Bats	70	70	71	71	72	72	72	73	73	74	74	74	75	75	76	76	76	77	77	78	78	78	79	79	80	80	80	81	81	82	82	82	83	83	84	84	84	85	85	86	86	86	87	87	88	88	88	89	89	90
Golems
Goobbues					47	48	48
Hecteyes
Hounds
Imps	70	70	71	71	72	72	72	73	73	74	74	74	75	75	76	76	76	77	77	78	78	78	79	79	80	80	80	81	81	82	82	82	83	83	84	84	84	85	85	86	86	86	87	87	88	88	88	89	89	90
Leeches			47						57
Magic Pots						61		61
Mandragoras	55	56	56	57	58	58	59	59	60	61	61	62	62	63	64	64	65	65	66	67	67	68	68	69	70	70	71	71	72	73	73	74	74	75	76	76	77	77	78	79	79	80	80	81	82	82	83	83	84	85
Manticores
Marids																																																		60
Morbols							42		43
Opo-opo					57	58
Orobons	40	40	41	41	42	42	42	43	43	44	44	44	45	45	46	46	46	47	47	48	48	48	49	49	50	50	50	51	51	52	52	52	53	53	54	54	54	55	55	56	56	56	57	57	58	58	58	59	59	60
Puks	40	41	42	43	44	45	46	47	48	49	49	50	51	52	53	54	55	56	57	58	58	59	60	61	62	63	64	65	66	67	67	68	69	70	71	72	73	74	75	76	76	77	78	79	80	81	82	83	84	85
Qutrubs	21	22	23	24	25	26	27	28	29	31	32	33	34	35	36	37	38	39	40	42	43	44	45	46	47	48	49	50	51	53	54	55	56	57	58	59	60	61	62	64	65	66	67	68	69	70	71	72	73	75
Rabbits	60											67	67	68	69				71
Rams																			47
Raptors
Rocs							51
Sabotenders						57
Saplings											66
Scorpions	45	46	46	47	47	48	48	49	49	50	50	51	51	52	52	53	53	54	54	55	55	56	56	57	57	58	58	59	59	60	60	61	61	62	62	63	63	64	64	65	65	66	66	67	67	68	68	69	69	70
Sea Monks				47
Sheep
Skeletons	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	36	37	38	39	40	41	42	43	44	45	47	48	49	50	51	52	53	54	55	56	58	59	60	61	62	63	64	65	66	67	69	70	71	72	73	74	75	76	77	78	80
Slimes					39			41
Spheroids	85	85	85	86	86	86	87	87	87	88	88	88	88	89	89	89	90	90	90	91	91	91	91	92	92	92	93	93	93	94	94	94	94	95	95	95	96	96	96	97	97	97	97	98	98	98	99	99	99	100
Spiders									60	61
Tauri
Tigers
Treants									49	50	50
Wamoura	40	40	41	41	42	42	42	43	43	44	44	44	45	45	46	46	46	47	47	48	48	48	49	49	50	50	50	51	51	52	52	52	53	53	54	54	54	55	55	56	56	56	57	57	58	58	58	59	59	60
Wamouracampa
Wivres									43		44				48				48					49
Worms
Wyverns								36			38

Wivre 48@15 and 48@19 are possibly incorrect. It seems to be 40+0.4 for wivres, but not enough data to be certain.
Leech 57@9 doesn't match the 47@3. --Seedling 01:25, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

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From the information so far it seems fairly clear the mandragora is converging on 0.6FP/level or 3FP/5LVL so I'm going to go ahead and put that on the page and remove verification tag.--Tarundi 04:55, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps it's a coincidence, but it seems all base_FP values will be a multiple of 5. --Seedling 23:56, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

My Ahriman has/had 63@5 and 68@11,12,13 69@14 FP since I don't see anything in the table for Ahriman's yet. My opo-opo is 57@5 58@6 Sorry if I did this incorrectly --Dobren 10:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Opo-opo wasn't in the list yet, I've added it.
Could you confirm the numbers for ahrimans at 11,12,13 and 14? 63@5 would indication base_FP is 60, with either 0.6 or 0.7 FP per level.
For 60+0.6, that means 63@5, 66@11, 67@12, 67@13, 68@14.
For 60+0.7, that means 63@5, 67@11, 68@12, 69@13, 69@14.
Neither matches your set of data. --Seedling 11:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

How would you like me to confirm it? I've never contributed before, so not sure what to do I think lvl 5 might be off and it's since I did it from memory but 11-14 was done as my monster leveled and I talked to the NPC, and it was 67@11 sorry about that 69@16 and 70@17 --Dobren 03:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Rabbits: I have no idea what's going on with them, unless either their growth is non-linear, or something I did is making mine grow funny. I added the values at 12, 13, 14, 17, all while checking the value on-screen for my (snow) bunny. Very peculiar. Parvus 04:17, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Didnt see cactuar/sabotender ; ; -- Emperordragon 05:20, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Vampyrs

Anyone know if vampyr family is a valid pet? MysteryTour lists it as a valid pet, but I have reservations about that. --Seedling 15:49, 9 October 2007 (UTC)