From my past experience, if you kill the two napalms for an hour, you will get a flame degen. --Emmm 19:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

huh? What? well It's a rare drop, I'm sure if you kill it long enough, you'll get it eventually. Whether you killed them for an hour or for few minutes.--Suirieko 3:17, 8 September 2008 (EDT)

  • ok... 2 possibilities: chance to getting ordells treasure key is much higher or chance flame degen drops is much lower... i don't know how many napalms i killed but got 8 keys so far and no flame degen :/ --Killercat Bis 04:46, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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