Talk:La Velue

on other forums, there is a suspected pop timer of 24h, which seems to be inaccurate. i made claim to La Velue on Ragnarok 12:21pst Thursday, no drop. (about a half hour after the 24h mark from maintenance, which might support the 24h spawn time.) friday i was in the area wide-scanning from an hour before to 7 hours after the 24h window, with no results. it may be a 21-24h spawn, and someone else got it before i showed up today. i'll update more if i claim again. [ Kaia 02:42, 15 March 2008 (UTC) ]

I have no proff against the 24 hour pop both times i went to pop it was around the same time each day

I camped this today with a few people in my Linkshell. We camped it right after maintenance, so I don't know the pop timer, but we were there for about 30 minutes killing Smilodons when it popped. The only drop was the Amakura. Spikey 00:22, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Easily solo'd as a THF75, the move "Disorienting Waul" can miss also (avoiding amnesia). His accuracy was fairly poor also. Gave 0 xp and dropped nothing with TH4. --Rry 19:37, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

The placeholder is the tenth Smilodon in the dat files of the group that is found at G/H-8 (just above La Velue), and tends to be found at G-8. Placeholder will respawn within 10 minutes of NM dying, leading me to believe that it is a true lottery rather than any minimum respawn timer, however the shortest respawn I saw was 65 minutes. --Stromgarde 15:28, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

I camped this yesterday for Trial No6 and NM pop always every 80-90 min killing the right placeholder. Just go to line between G/H-8 and widescan from here. Main page say here is a group with 29 smilodons but it isn't true, sometimes you can see up to 32 in widescan, anyway placeholder is the 10th on list and always pop in G-8 and almost can say in the same spot. However La Velue can pop anywhere so after kill the PH back to G/H-8 to widescan again. --Vodak 22:10, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

There are 29 consecutive Smilodons in the group in the bounded area described on the main page. Yes, you can hit more than 29 at once with widescan, but even you do manage to hit more than 29, 29 is the maximum quantity that will show up consecutively in widescan. That's what people are talking about. If you like, you can verify this using polutils. --Stromgarde 04:26, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

I mean 32 consecutive. Now, while posting this coment I'm helping a friend and this time I have 30 Smilodons consecutive on widescan. --Vodak 21:15, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, there's 32 consecutive, depending on the range and where you're standing. Sometimes 29, if you stand in a weird place. It's still the 10th in the list though. Zaphor 08:25, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Posting to confirm it is 10th from the top of the 29-32 consecutive pops. Thank you to contributors.Didgist 15:25, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

After camping the NM for my full Trial kills, alone, I can confirm there is only one placeholder. However, depending on your placement it may not always be the 6th or 10th tiger on the widescan grouping of tigers. I found several ways to confirm the placeholder amongst the rest, despite this variation in scanning. Here is a recap of what we know and how I clarify which one is the placeholder.

One: If you stand at the hill (where the ruins are) and assuming no one has killed any, it should show up as the 10th tiger in that grouping.

Two: If you stand in the middle of the small 'triangle' of trees at the G-7/8 border line, it will be the 6th tiger in the grouping.

Now to confirm that the tiger you want is the one you're looking at on widescan, remember that the placeholder will be the ONLY tiger in the widescan grouping (again, provided no one has killed every one of them) that appears near those trees (always in G-8, though I've seen it wander to the edge of G-7) from tigers 1 to around 15 or more.

In short, scan the first ten or so tigers and you will only get one in G-8 (sometimes the others nearby wander, but you can tell the difference as the PH is without a doubt IN the grid square). All the other tigers in the G-8 grid are much further down the list then the placeholder. Doing this method I got all 4 kills in roughly 10 hours. If someone is killing the tigers (which happened to me this morning before my 4th kill) and you know they haven't touched the G-8 side, just widescan near the trees and pick out the top most tiger in the grouping that scans in that grid. It has always been that tiger for me. Japanese group was killing tigers over in H-8 and was movin towards G-8 when I came back, I picked out the top most tiger in the scan that appeared in that grid, killed him, waited 5 minutes as normal for the spawn, widescanned, and found the NM.--Blurryhunter 17:53, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

I had trouble understanding just how standing at the mentioned locations added up so I adapted my own relatively accurate method ~~> Stand near the 3 tree's area near the middle of the G-8 and G-7 border and Widescan. Scroll down to the biggest grouping of tigers and check each one from the top of the group down until you find one that appears on the G-8 side - this is the placeholder. Doing the above strategies didn't work for me, either because my Widescan II wasn't far reaching enough or some other problem. Popped 2 times for me with the above strategy in under 40 minutes (after 90 minutes from ToD). The placeholder will always be in the G-8 area from around the trees (most often) to right on top of the mound with the ruins. This strategy works from nearly any spot on the map but I could never make it work as the 10th or 6th on the list.--Sneph 04:14, June 14, 2010 (UTC).