Talk:Kindred's Crest

Can anyone confirm how to obtain these or what drops them? --[[User: Angelous}}

Created page, because the item exists, it's in the DATs, and it's requested for by an NPC, maybe people will STOP changing the Expanding Horizons page when they have a new page to update. --Yekyaa 20:35, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

From what I've read in the forums it is confirmed they drop from level ~70+ mobs. It looks like if it is the improved version of Kindred's Seals.

Do you need Signet to get them to drop? lulz--Willoflame 00:07, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Drops during the day, as well as night. --iEscape 03:04, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Confirmed drop during day 09:14 Rieul 03:52, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

==5 Minute Rule==(Proved Incorrect Below)

After doing some duo farming for crests, it appears that the crests follow the same rule as the seals: 1 will drop at least every 5 minutes. It also appears that, like the other seals, only 1 of the 3 seals will drop from any mob. To my knowledge, I and all my acquaintances have not witnessed a crest drop together with a seal, which is expected behavior of a these kinds of items. --Dark494 03:37, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I can confirm this as well. I checked my logs and used timestamps. See my results above. At one point, we thought we had broken the "5-minute rule," but checking our math revealed the shortest time between getting Kindred's Crest to drop twice was actually 5 minutes, 33 seconds. --Jhubsch 05:37, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

• I've never heard of this "5 minute rule." Tahngarthor^{talk-contribs} 07:37, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

• Neither do I, and after spending more than an hour killing mobs to get the crest in Abyssea, and getting 2 of them, I doubt that you'll get 1 every 5 minutes... Carlie 08:01, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

it's a old rule for BS/KS. only 1 can drop after 5min of last drop for 1 Party. After 5 min its allways a chance for a BS/KS to drop and not 100% that it will drop at the 5 Minute mark. Guess for KC now is the same. This means every 5+ minute you have the chance for either 1 BS 1 KS or 1 KC . Mindi 09:36, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Unless Abyssea behaves completely differently, this "5 minute rule" is complete b.s. I have been in an abyssea party that had 2 kindred seals in the loot pool at the same time. Kaht 14:15, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Why is it complete BS? You probably abyssea XP with 2/3 parties, which coincides with "1 seal per 5 minutes per party". But Crests dont follow such guidelines:
http://a.imageshack.us/img32/9186/ffxi20100909003843.png
2 crests in a treasure pool, clearly no alliance --Nynja 14:29, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Certainly, perhaps a rule of thumb. On 9/8/10, between 10pm and 2am EDT, a full alliance in Abyssea collected 16 of these Kindred's Crests in 4 hours of farming (Tahrongi, Mandies). One occurrence, back-to-back Kindred's Crest dropped; that's in a matter of seconds. Kindred's Seals and Beastmen Seals dropped much more frequently. Kandu 10:24, September 9, 2010 (EDT)

Alliances are completely different then parties. Alliances are consisted of 3 parties, which means in turn, up to 3 KS, BS, or KC's can drop every 5 min. The theory about the 5 min drop rule has been proven correct, as to why Nynja has 2 in the lot pool, I honestly have no clue why, that's the only picture to date that I've ever seen with more then 1 in per 1 party. So maybe there is an exclusion to KC's and we don't see it due to horrible drop rates, but for BC and KS's I believe its only ever 5 minutes. .:*Hyar*:. 18:12, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Kindred's Seals/Beastmen Seals

Is there a way to confirm whether these take the place of seals or whether they drop independently? I would assume they drop instead of the seals, but you know what happens when you assume. User:TinDragon (talk) 23:57, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

It appears to be independent I just received a kindred's seal from the camels that drop the Crest.

I think he meant can they both drop at the same time from the same mob, or if it's one or the other (or neither) only. Chernabog 00:33, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Crests act in the same way that BS and KS do. So only 1 can drop at a time from a mob. —The preceding comment was unsigned.

From all reports, they're mob-level dependent, as far as which type drops. I know I've farmed seals before and can get both types from the same type of mob if their level range is between the cutoff (i.e. if some spawn as lvl73 and some spawn as lvl76, the 73s have a chance to drop seals, the 76s drop crests). I hope that wasn't too confusing... not sure if I wrote that up correctly... --◄Chrisjander► t/ c 14:21, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Pet mobs have low drop rate?

Small sample size, I know. I just went 0/50 on Gigas's Tiger (Lv.73-75) In Vunkerl Inlet. I got 4 beastmen seals and 4 kindred seals in that time. I did have Sanction on, in a WotG area. Not sure if I have REALLY bad luck, or one of those factors contributed. If anyone gets a crest to drop from a pet mob, please speak up! --Jamiesan 01:43, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I got 1 in the first couple pets I killed, then nothing for over an hour, jumped zones and got 1 on the first kill, then nothing for another hour. I know some other people in parties also are going 0/50 on nonpets, so I think it's just a feature of this particular drop :P --Vulturelainen 02:12, September 9, 2010 (UTC) Update: 5/5, got last 3 in like 10 minutes after 3 hours of zero, nice luck =/ --Vulturelainen 03:34, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Drop rate research

I did a lot of killing mobs today to figure out what the drop rate on Kindred's Crest's were, I did approximately, around 250 Greater Colibri with only 7 dropping a crest, then later on got 4 more crests off around 80 Flamingo's in sky.

After doing the math it determined the drop rate on crest's at about 3%, as opposed to Beastman/Kindred Seal's 5%. This is a far rarer drop and seems to drop more frequently from mobs in abyssea from my standpoint. --Xynthios 03:00, September 9, 2010 (UTC)