Walkthrough (edits)
Check the ??? located at the center of (F-5) to pop Vegnix Greenthumb and defeat him to obtain the Seedspall Roseum.
I would like to request an slight edit to the location of the ??? in Rolanberry: Check the ??? located in (D-11) north of the small lake to pop Chuglix Berrypaws and defeat him to obtain the Seedspall Caerulum. --Sorakirei 02:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
I would like to add to the page but it is locked. I just reused my Bowl of bland Goblin salad to spawn Vegnix Greenthumb for the second time. Did not refarm the Bowl of bland Goblin salad. I waited a new earth day after doing the Seed Mandragora fight. --Xew 15:59, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
I agree with Xew. I've been farming this key and I've never had to re-obtain the Bowl of bland Goblin salad, Jug of greasy Goblin juice, nor the Chunk of smoked Goblin grub. They can be used once a RL day to pop the goblins. --Kudos 23:30, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
I spent two hours farming near the area of the ???. There are no goblins near there, and I never obtained the key item. I left out of annoyance and hit the first gob down the hill. Obtained the item on that one kill.
Level Requirement..?
Killed about 80+ Goblins on Rolanberries and my friend is still unable to get a pop-keyitem. We tried everything inside party, outside party.. and 100% in range.. and yes, she is on the "Gatherer of Light (I)" mission. She is lv51 and hasnt done Genkai 3 yet. Anyone else sharing similar problems? >.<;; XOliver 14:20, 9 April 2009 (UTC) Never mind.. just got it randomly on 100+ kill.. allthough it makes no sense at all x,x XOliver 15:17, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
I was killing gobs with a friend, killed two and got the drop for him (he was halfway across the map). I used the WHM Job Ability Aflatus Solace and could not get the drop for myself. After about 100 mobs (give or take a few) I switched to Aflatus Misery and got the drop on my second goblin. There may be a glitch in the system that prevents drops if Solace is active. User:WolfeMasters 16:00, 11 April 2009 (EST)
Farming Goblins to get the key item with two characters (second on auto-follow). Obtained the key item on first character, but not the second. Killed several more Goblins, second character still not able to get it. Finally, did an /assist on another goblin and obtained the key item. It appears that eminity may be a factor. --Bluplanet 21:56, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
32 RDM killing goblins outside Crawler's Nest, got key item after many kills.SoichiroofRemedy 22:53, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
I did this earlier today with 2 friends. Since it said "enemies" I started killing everything, although we only got drops on gobs. One of my friends got the drop when she was at the entrance to the area, while the mob was clear across the map. Since she was afk, I doubt that enmity has anything to do with it. I would recommend changing "enemies" to "goblins" to avoid my confusion and any other like problems. Rynokthegreat 2:39, 5 July 2009 (PST)
I spent close to an hour killing Goblins yesterday when my husband told me to check my kley items "just in case". Sure enough, it was there! I hadn't even noticed I got it, but the only mobs I killed were Goblins. Seems logical they would be the ones to drop the goblin items. --Kresaera~*~ 16:17, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
Pop-Keyitem / Trigger-Goblins
Killed over 100 goblins as 99 Dnc/Blm. Frustrated, I decided to go a magic kill and got the KI on the first one. ~Zazhi, sylph
I've been told that you'd best solo the NM as the key item randomly drops to any member of your party/alli. Anyone have any evidence for this? --Headache 07:05, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Everyone who needs this done needs to pop him. Just killed him in a pt of 3, only the person who popped it got the key item.--Lightningcount 07:10, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- This is incorrect information. You only need to kill the NM once for however many people are in your party. In order to get the Seedspall item however you must have gotten the Goblin food item first. For example in Batallia Downs you need to get the Bowl of bland Goblin salad for each person in the party and then any person can pop the NM, kill it, and everyone who had the Bowl of bland Goblin salad will get the Seedspall Roseum. --Malitia 05:11, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
I was in a party of 3 last night and I popped the ??? an the other 2 in my party did NOT have this quest active and the seedspall dropped to me. The 75 Pld I was will did 90% of the damamge so It will drop to who needs it in my experience. --Kresaera~*~ 19:31, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
We both got pop item, but he popped the NM and we both got Seedspall from NM in Sauramogue--Seanross
Yeah apparently you dont need to kill him multiple times, however everyone needs the pop item to get the seedspall.--Lightningcount 08:47, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure about the killing blow statement. I was just in a party with 2 other people, 1 of which already had the key item. As I was running around I suddenly got the item followed by the text saying I was out of range of the monster just killed. Either it was delayed from the previous kill or I got the key item from the gob the other party member killed. This needs to be verified but it very well could drop to a random party member. Focant 07:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
This DID happen to me, I'd just killed a gob, no message on my screen, DRG asks if I just got item. I hadn't, but he did. My key dropped to him somehow, seems a bit screwy, but I was there when it happened... --Headache 08:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure that obtaining the key item is random for each party member within exp range.--Anthoron T/ C 08:22, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
I got a Bowl of bland Goblin salad off of a Sabertooth Tiger in Batallia Downs. --Raikenshi 02:19, 9 April 2009 Webcam Pic(/cry im a ps2er)
- Were you partied with anyone at the time, Raikenshi? This is important. If you were, then they could've killed a gob and you got the drop. See other statements above. --Starcade 22:40, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Nope, I was solo for collecting all these items and killing all NMs, did on my drk/blm for teh warp lol. Might have been a glitch, dunno, but I only killed a few tigers b/c the gobs were being camped like mad at the time. Though it seems like it should be goblins, and I didn't bother testing again after finishing ACP, so I won't argue having the article say goblins. --Raikenshi 01:18, 12 April 2009
"Pop items stay in possession after the NM dies, but cannot be reused by a player to pop the NM again once you have recieved the Seedspall key item. There is another use for those pop items, though. " This was stated on the main page but i'm on First BCNM Mission and i went back to help friends accidently clicked ??? and spawned the NM then to test it i try'd another ??? and spawned the Next NM Again!--Trunxrdm 07:26, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
In regards to the key item that is dropped from the regular mobs, aka, the food items, I do not believe they can be obtained by ANY mob. Goblin only. A couple reasons. One, in the description, they are goblin made, which should hint that goblins carry them. Two, I killed untold scores of non-goblin mobs, and never received the key item. In Sauramogue. Then I killed eight goblins, and received it.
Also, I helped friends obtain the same key item, killing goblins. They were nowhere near me at the time, and received the food key item from my kill. Also, that same friend spawned and killed the NM for the Seedspall key item while I was literally on the opposite side of the map, and I received the Seedspall key item.
It is necessary to have the food key item in your Temp. Key Items in order to receive the Seedspall, but I do not believe it necessary to be within a certain range. Also, if you have the food key item, and you're in the party that kills the NM for the Seedspall, you will receive the Seedspall key item. It doesn't randomly choose people in the party to give it to. If five of you have the food item, and you spawn and kill it, five of you will get the seedspall item. Atleast, that's how it worked for me and my friends. {EDIT} I tested receiving either key item, Food and Seedspall, and the range necessary. My friend received both his key items despite being nowhere near either slain mob. You just have to be in party, not in range! -- Taomage 9:48 AM, 11 April 2009 (EST)
Same results here, editing article to save fellow players a lot of time. Alrehn 14:04, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
took me about 5 hours to get my first key item to drop. what i have noticed so far with one left to go is the gobs near the area where the nm is spawned (atleast for me) tend to drop the key item much quicker.. could just be luck.. but thats what i noticed. 1 gob kill near jugner zone and 6 gobs near CN. as far as the nm's go each so far has had less then 1500 hp. so cake for a 75. Ryeshinyih 06:25, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
EDIT took a long time to get the final one but i decided to follow suit and go near GC. so i used the Maw and killed a few up on the cliff where the nm spawns and i got key item relatively quickly. took about 6-7 gobs to get the key item. Ryeshinyih 08:47, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
^- If I could rate this up I would! After an hour and a half of killing mobs around the Jeuno zone in Batallia Downs, I read this post and moved to the ledge around F-6 and got it in two Goblin kills. Choco'd to the CN zone area in Rolanberry and got the Key Item in two Goblin kills. Choco'd up to the GC zone area in Sauromugue and got the Key Item in three Goblin kills! Thanks, great advice!Phlegra (talk) 13:58, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
I went around killing all mobs in all 3 of the zones. 2 of them I was solo, 1 in a party. Ended up getting key item from a gob in each zone. I spent at least 1 hour killing in each zone. --Autun 09:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Summoner 61 here! I killed easily the spwaned goblins with a single carby. --♥Binahel♥Talk-♥ 12:48, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
To obtain both the goblin key items and Seedspall key items, one only needs to be on the current mission and in the zone.
I was at a friends house. We were both in a party, and I was killing goblin near Crawler's nest entrance, while he was right at the jeuno zone line. we both received the key item (from different mobs.). He was still at the Jueno zoneline when I kiled the NM, and he receieved the Seedspall Hyakutenken 05:51, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I got my key item [Bowl of bland Goblin salad] off the second Goblin I killed. 75BST/WHM. ♫ --Atropa [Quetzalcoatl] 15:17, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
I think there really might be something to killing gobs near the ??? or at least dungeon entrance. I spent hours in Sauromogue killing everything in sight and never got the drop. The a month later I come to Rolanberry, and the third Gob I kill right outside the entrance to CN gets me the key item. Maybe coincidence, but it's another piece of evidence nonetheless. --Puxapuak 03:49, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
Add: Whether it's just goblins or not, I just went 3/3 with 2 ppl on goblins right near the dungeon zones in under and hour and a half. 5 drops in 90 mins... take it to mean what you will. That's pretty convincing. --Puxapuak 06:03, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
Possible Glitch
Just in case this happens to anyone else: I popped Vegnix Greenthumb, about halfway through the fight a Goblin Pathfinder and his pet linked in. I finished off Vegnix without any trouble but didn't get the key item. I continued killing the Pathfinder and then his pet while thinking about possible solutions to the problem, but after I killed the Goblin and his pet I received the key item. -User:Leithe
- I also had this happen to me. I linked a Goblin Leecher and I had to kill the Leecher to get the key item.--Ceolwulf 20:08, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Squintrox Dryeyes
can anyone confirm if Squintrox Dryeyes has anything to do with this? He offers Crimson Key and Viridian Key. --Dressi 04:55, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
thats for items out of the chest in tenshodo apparently.
For mission, there's ??? in same zone you get key item in, that you examine after you have key item & fight NM gobs and they drop the shards. --Waku 01:00, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Is it possible to only farm one item and get the key item for a whole party/alliance like cards for limbus? --Headache 06:25, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Whoever has fought the NM's, what is there relative strength? Rollinwinds 07:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)Rollinwinds
- NM went down in a matter of seconds as 75 DD. I have to say less than 1500hp. --zarrgoth 11:30, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- I killed all 3 solo as a 71 DNC/NIN with no trouble whatsoever, only one even managed to hit enough break through my initial 3 shadows, and they all went down quickly, besides the Thief (Which was only a result of waiting out Perfect Dodge). My guess is that these can be easily defeated solo by anyone 65+, possibly lower. -Siluvaine 05:00, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
As far as Squintrox goes:
- You get to keep the key items from this mission, even after getting your quest item.... Get all the quest items and then trade your key items for the Viridian Key and try to find a Viridian Chest. Since you have fought your NMs the key items are useless now, right? Also, after you have done the previous quest, you can try to re-farm those for the Crimson Key and try it on the Crimson Chest, after you find it... These are, of course, guesses.--Dijidl 09:42, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- I spoke with Squintrox after I had gotten all 6 key items for the mission, 3 key items from the normal gobbies and 3 key items from the forced spawn NM gobbies. When I selected the Viridian Key from the list it gave me a message stating that the quest would come under a time restriction. I declined to receive the key due to the in-game problems with finishing the mission. I'm going to try after the fight and see what happens.
- Also, there is definitely a Red (Crimson) Treasure Coffer in The Tenshodo. When selecting it, it will ask what expansion/add-on scenario you are using a key from and lists not only the current one but the upcoming one's as well. I selected the Crystalline Prophecy but didn't not have a Crimson Key and it said I don't have the approriate key to unlock. I will re-farm the items for both keys and try again, later. I will move this part of the edit to a more appropriate place later.--Dijidl 20:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Goblin Pets
While killing goblins in Batallia Downs, I found that goblins pets, as well as the goblins themselves, are able to drop the key items to pop the NMs (And I assume that goblin pets in the other zones will drop their respective pop items as well, assuming there are BST-type goblins there.)
You can see in this screenshot (complete with timestamp) that I got the key item after defeating a Goblin's Dragonfly -Siluvaine 04:40, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
I'll confirm this. I also got my Bowl of bland Goblin salad after defeating a Goblin's Dragonfly as well. I killed the Goblin Pathfinder with Vorpal Blade first. --Ralrra 14:38, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Non-goblin drops
I have yet to see a screenshot or claim on any forum or site that enemies other than goblins or goblin pets can be defeated to gain the key items. Someone reported killing over 100 non-goblin, non-pet mobs and received nothing, yet most accounts for goblin kills would put the "drop" rate much higher. I put a verification tag on the note about it, and someone should definitely try to confirm it if they think they do indeed drop from all enemies.--Tsukinomahou 12:34, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Don't have screenshot - but got salad off a tiger. Drop rate is just really low.
I have a screenshot - got grub off a Tabar Beak. User:Leithe
Another screenshot - got salad off a Strolling Sapling, note that I killed a Goblin as well but it didn't drop it, the sapling did! User:Leithe
- I have a screenshot of our group getting one off a Skink. We also got one off a beetle earlier.
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/thies7/ffxi_20090411_174153-1.jpg
Thanks for the posts everyone. It's always good to be sure about these things. Everyone else please stop editing it to say "goblins" now that there's proof, thanks.--Tsukinomahou 12:33, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
It's still getting edited to say 'goblins' instead of 'enemies'. Please stop doing this, I just changed it back again plus some minor edits. Edit: Added verification tag to drop rate, as it's still unclear if the drop rate is better for goblins or non-goblin mobs or if it's actually the same. Especially since for along time people refused to acknowledge they even dropped off of other mobs. -User:Leithe
Both of these screenshots are done in party, where all party members were away from each other. I still have yet to see one screenshot of a non-goblin drop done solo (the Sapling one above may be attributed to lag, a goblin was killed earlier). What I honestly believe is happening here is someone is killing a non-goblin around the same time someone else in their party is killing a goblin, and thus loads seeming as such. I've done tons of fanned out party farming (dynamis come to mind), and the message about being out of range when a mob is killed does show up later then when it actually happens, and in the case of the second screenshot it is clearly a goblin (gil drop). I farmed the key items on my main char and my mule not fanning out for kills, and I can assure you I must have killed 200 non-gobs and failed to recieve the key item. Show me a screenshot of a solo non-gob dropping, and I will be convinced. Untill then, its just heresay.--Nynja 18:41, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- If you look up (under the 'Goblin Pets' header), I posted a screenshot getting it from a goblin pet, while not in a party. Also, Thiez posted a screenshot which shows a timestamp of the key item dropping at the exact second the last hit landed on the skink (You can see later two 'You are too far from the battle to gain experience' notes, but there was none at the time the key item was obtained. --Siluvaine 05:33, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Screenshot getting the key item off a Diving Beetle, solo.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj234/mandze/beetle.jpg
--Mandze 22:20, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Well played, SE must have ninja altered it during one of those maintenance's. Oh well, lucky everyone else :) --Nynja 05:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Anyone else notice that the mob killed before the one that "dropped" the key item in all of these shots was a goblin? Just getting really curious about this since I've been murdering mobs in Rolanberry for hours now with no drop. I'm not convinced that it drops from other mobs, myself... maybe it's bugged where it only shows up on the kill after a goblin. Myrid 00:07, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
- No, I've never noticed that because there's a couple screenshots above that show no such goblin, like the Diving Beetle one and the Sauromugue Skink one, although I'm sure someone will discredit the Sauromugue one again because it's a party screenshot. It's a crappy drop rate. The people who are having a crappy drop rate from goblins just get told to keep killing more goblins. (Forgot to sign.)--Teykos 02:55, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
uh, did you even read my comment? The mob killed before the one that dropped the key item was a goblin in every screenshot except the one in party of three. In that case, maybe it considers the last mob *you personally* killed, or maybe the system just takes a minute or so to figure out whether you'll get the key item next or not. In the last one with the beetle, there's not enough chatlog shown to see what was killed prior. Just looking at this from a programmer's perspective. I've spent quite a bit of time in Rolanberry since getting my initial set of key items, killing crabs and malboros around Simurgh camp and bats for the dagger Magian trial, and still never got it from anything but a goblin. It's also entirely possible that for an update or two it was just dropping from incorrect mobs. Myrid 05:37, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Uh, it doesn't sound like you are even paying attention when Key Items show up from a mob drop or have ever experienced heavy lag problems. They drop when the killing blow happens. If your theory that it was due to lag was true they would not be consistently showing up at the killing blows each time, and we'd be seeing situations other Key Item type drops come from unrelated mobs as well, like the Cardian Orbs, because it contradicts the information given. Regarding lag, if you have heavy lag problems, either the text NEVER shows up at all because it was lost (packet dropped) or it all comes in streaming in the order it would have been presented. I'm not even going to go into trying to expect people to believe that server lag caused all that. All this hypothesizing is refusal to accept the fact that the drop rate is horrible. I am STILL trying to get Goblin grub in Sauromugue Champaign because it refuses to drop, to the point where I am sick of the zone and only farming that zone now if I have a job in that level range for Page 2. That's great you got it from goblins. Unfortunately quite a few others are reporting getting them from other mobs and even posting screenshots of it. Grasping at straws as to why they got it from non-goblin mobs is just a polite way of calling them liars. Teykos 07:11, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
tested current thoughts
In party got all 3 drops we are all level 75. 3 different mobs families not just gobbins Didn't share drop took 82 mobs. for all 3 drops. -User:Kewitt:kewitt
No screen shot (sorry) but I did get the Batalia Downs item from an Orc, not a gob...but it took me a very long time killing anything I ran into to get the drop at all, and this was during later hours for the U.S. FFXICosmos 16:23, 25 April 2009 (UTC)Solfleur/Alexander
Stop Editing the Page
Obviously the key items drop from mobs other than just goblins. I see three people claiming this and two screenshots. Stop editing it to say it's just goblins, it's not. -User:Leithe
I think it's fair to edit the page to add recommendations that there appears to be a significantly higher drop rate from Goblins than other types of monsters. To state that it comes from "enemies" is misleading when players come here for information on how to do these quests in the most efficient manner possible. -User:Rapsket
I don't mind if someone wants to calculate a drop rate from goblins and non-goblins, it's just that no one has done the testing for it yet and therefore isn't accurate. As for your other comment, 'enemies' is more accurate than 'goblins'. In the time this was going on, goblins were being overcamped, so it was more efficient to kill other mobs because there wasn't any goblins to be found. -User:Leithe
I never stated that you should change it to -just- goblins. Just add an anecdote that the drop rate seems to be higher from goblins than other creatures. And as far as over camping of goblins, would that not be an indication that people were having a much higher success rate with goblins than with other mobs despite the fact that the key item could drop from everything? -User:Rapsket
There is a statement about the drop rate being higher for goblins already - whether it's true or not I've no idea. Overcamping goblins only means that lots of people didn't know that they dropped from other mobs. You want to know why they didn't know? The mission log only stated goblins and at the time so did the Wiki. As stated before I don't care if someone wants to calculate a drop rate. Please do, I'd love to know what the drop rate on this thing is. But at this point in time, it's all hearsay. No one has any facts!! I'd love to be able to say one or the other. Can you honestly tell me, with proof, that goblins have a better drop rate personally? There's been too much stupidity with this article already, I'd rather not confuse the community any further. -User:Leithe
- The mission log itself is talking about the "stones" aquired by a gob, says nothing about the food. Though it seems logical that they carry this food, rather than other creatures. ~ juni66 13:25, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
I think the "proof" however non empirical as it may be would be in the testimonies of the people posting on this board. Upwards of 100+ non goblin mobs with little sucess, versus people who received the item in 1-10 from goblins. That would put the item feasibly at 1-3% for non goblins, and perhaps as high as 10% off of goblins. However you want to slice it, the people on this board are proof enough. As far as a "personal" account, I recieved my key items 1/1 in rolanberry, 1/6 in champaigne, and 1/3 in batallia. But that wont be "proof" enough to satisfy you anyways. -User:Rapsket
- Testimonies can be misleading for a number of reasons (for example, exaggeration and selective testing). This is something that can, and should, be empirically tested.--Anthoron T/ C 12:57, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
- Indeed, however I would counter that what we DO need is selective testing. Clearly we're testing two different things: Drop rate on Goblins, versus non-goblins. Testimonies are the best we've got at this point. I guess it comes down to whether you -actually- believe what people post here as results. Nynja was quite adamant that goblin drops were the only way to obtain them, and now we have at -least- 3 different individuals that have screen shots and testimonies (with numbers) claiming otherwise. I agree BETTER empirical testing should be done, but to discount the information on this page is like discounting a vote because you don't like the result. Information posted on a wiki is the combined result of ONLY testimony - regardless if it falls under the scope of empirical testing. -User:Rapsket
I'm not real sure why you're picking a fight with me. I've already said I don't care what the outcome of the drop rates is. Yet you keep bringing it back up.. I don't really understand it. Anyway, since you seem to want me to play devil's advocate: You've only got one side of the drop rates, and one person's experience isn't the same as another person's. Heck, TH might even factor in, skewing the results. I don't know. I don't care! -User:Leithe
I'm not "picking a fight". I don't care if you don't care about drop rates. What this section of the wiki is about, is the wording of "enemies" versus "only goblins" or "- but goblins have a notably different drop rate." You're right. We only have one side of the coin. In fact, we light of the development that non-goblins can drop said items, we have overwhelming numbers and evidence to put towards the -start- of a drop rate calculation for non-goblins. Clearly we need more information, but again, what is really the cause for this part of the page is the fact that people keep changing the wiki. Right now, there is a section at the bottom which requires verification. That's fine, but how many people read to the very bottom of the section in the general population? People I've talked to claim the wiki is wrong for various reasons like "I've been killing everything in the zone for half an hour and nothing" but after pressing them for more information, they claim to have only killed 2-3 goblins because they were over camped. Suggesting that they go try to claim goblins only, they come back 5 minutes later having successfully obtained the item. What is needed is more clarity. "enemies" is the most general and least accurate term because while true, it provides the least amount of usable efficient information. We like clarity. I would offer that something be appended directly to those lines to add more. -User:Rapsket
Oddity: I got the Rolanberry key item while my FunguarFamiliar was still fighting an Ochu on my screen. The "Obtained key item" message came 7 seconds before the "defeats" message, and there were two "FunguarFamiliar hits the Ochu" messages after I got the key item. This was 12 seconds after the previous mob, a Goblin Leecher, was defeated. So I'm not sure which mob I got the drop from. --Valyana 17:58, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Bottom line: It doesn't matter how often it drops from any given mob, it's whether or not it drops at all- And the facts are right in front of us: The key item can come from any mob in the zones. We would be doing a disservice to everyone by starting things that are not factual on the site. Tahngarthortalk-contribs 12:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
There's a bit of a fallacy on the page that I wanted to correct, but can't with the lock: the food items can be used to repop the NMs, but you must wait until the next Earth day, making repeating the next mission a bit easier. --Sherinmir 00:12, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- Is that if you fail the mandy BC? or is it just to kill the NM again for fun? I know you lose the HQ key items after failing the Mandy BC, and you can repop the NM's using the old NQ items just fine.
- It's so you can re-do the mandragora fight that is in the next mission for another amber key each real life day. You can keep the same goblin food key items and just keep doing the goblin NMs and then the mandragora fight each new day for another amber key.--Tsukinomahou 12:45, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Links
I would like to clarify this...as it s a recurring theme here. In all the above SOLO screenshots, in all the "I didnt get it from a gob" testimonial, there is something that happens every time: LINKS. I'm not talking about people who were in parties, I dont care about that..though that may be a factor as well, in the sense you cant get any key items loaded untill everyone is done fighting mobs.
Mandze's picture shows a dead Beetle...was she fighting a Goblin before that? I dont know...
The entire Goblin Pets section states that people killed the goblin master first, then the pet, which holds true to my present theory
Shortly above this, is Valayna's 'oddity' comment, where they say they were fighting two mobs at once: A goblin and an Ochu...and the message loaded as the ochu died...in this situation again two mobs were fought at once.
I myself farmed for two accounts, never did the linking mobs route, always fought one at a time. All 6 of my key items came from Goblins, not even pets. I support the drop rate thing as well, however the information I'm giving regarding links and farming in parties as such should be considered as well.--Nynja 18:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Just to clarify-- or confuse matters further-- I was not killing non-goblins exclusively when I got the screenshot. I did not notice any lag that would have caused a delay in the key item registering on my screen from a mob killed in the minutes before the non-goblin, but I can't completely rule out that possibility. I wasn't making a scientific study, and was just killing everything in sight to get the drop as quickly as possible.--User:Mandze
Not sure what you mean by 'linking mobs', unless it's the 'Diaga-mobs-then-plow-through-them' approach? Please explain. -User:Leithe
This actually makes the most sense to explain the non-goblin drops we're seeing screenshots of ... I believe telling people ... as the page does that it drops from ANY mob is very counter productive, and a disservice to the player base. I killed mobs in Batallia downs for over 2 hours before someone in my LS told me it's only gobs, I hadn't killed a gob yet. First one I killed, I got the drop. I then proceeded to Rolanberry and Sauromauge and got the drops in BOTH ZONES in less than 5 minutes each, concentrating on goblins. Personally, I think this should be changed to "Globins Only" on the main page. All of these screenshots do not convince me that the drop came FROM the mobs that they killed. And here's why, in every instance where I got the key item, it came IMMEDIATELY AFTER the kill was announced, in NONE of the Non-goblin screenshots is that the case. -Fretion 22:03, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
- The explanation of links preventing the key item from showing up is unfortunately incorrect. The key item will drop when the mob that dropped it dies. It does not wait until you are out of battle. I zoned into Batallia Downs. I kill a Goblin Pathfinder with a dragonfly pet. First kill on zoning in! The goblin died first. The Key Item dropped when the goblin died. The dragonfly then gets swatted to oblivion after the goblin died. If the theory was true, the key item should have waited until the dragonfly pet died. This means the previous screenshots showing the key item dropping from non-goblin mobs are valid. --Teykos 06:08, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx58/lurker545/FFXISS/BowlofGoblinSalad.png
The main page for this particular missions doesnt clearly state it is key items you are obtaining. This should be adjusted. I tried to but the page is locked for some stupid reason. Xellith 09:30, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
- It was locked due to edit warring, and the continued discussion on this tells me it's still a problem. I will adjust the page. Tahngarthortalk-contribs 21:42, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I spent 3 hours farming mobs in Rolanberry with no luck, didn't really attempt Goblins at all, figured, "WIki says Goblins have the higher drop rate, what do I have to lose." got it 5th goblin kill. Same thing with my fiance. As farfetched as it does sound (No offense) could very possibly be right, as it's even more farfetched to believe all of the people getting drops off of Goblins within the first few kills while going hours with no drop on non-Goblins is even more farfetched. EDIT: Also, would an admin like to state how many hours of testing this would need, I plan on getting this key item alot or friends anyway, but I dont want to put it 14 hours worth of solid testing on non-goblin farming if the admins have made up their mind anyway and rebuke it.Alaik
Latcarf's two cents: I killed over 100 non-gobby mobs and got no drops. I killed two goblins (after killing so many other mobs) and got the drop on Gobby 2. This was in Batallia Downs. Reading both this page an the one on bland salad made me think it was any enemy but Goblins are assuredly a higher drop rate. Even though there may only be anecdotal evidence (and not hard data), this mission page probably should be edited to say it "seems goblins have a higher drop rate." I wouldn't have wasted time on other mobs had I read this and I wouldn't have totally disregarded other mobs even it it did say that. Probably safest and clearest to post the "theory" that gobs have an apparent higher drop rate... --Latcarf 06:11, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
Just save yourself the trouble
And kill the Gobs from the group closest to the ???. That means Gobs at E-9/10 in Rolanberry fields, Gobs by the ??? in Batallia downs, etc. You'll thank yourself for it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Raydeus (talk • contribs).
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You can also easily access this if you have Beaucedine Glacier Listed under "Jeuno II" for voidwatch teleportation. Puts you right above the Batallia Downs exit.