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:Tested with [[Faith Baghnakhs]] and Virtue Stones. No stones were consumed across ~25 fights and kick rate was the same.--[[User:Baelorn|Baelorn]] 13:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 
:Tested with [[Faith Baghnakhs]] and Virtue Stones. No stones were consumed across ~25 fights and kick rate was the same.--[[User:Baelorn|Baelorn]] 13:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 
[That's too bad.] :( Thank you for the testing Baelorn. --[[User:Zorax|Zorax]] 14:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 
[That's too bad.] :( Thank you for the testing Baelorn. --[[User:Zorax|Zorax]] 14:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
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== WS Points Affected? ==
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A friend of mine is having trouble breaking his destroyers. He has done over 500 Points worth of Weapon skills and Skillchains, but neither of us are noticing a difference. The only ability he was using was Footwork.
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I realize the possibility of a miscalcuation is always a possibility, but is it possible that footwork always affects the acquisition of WS Points?
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Revision as of 05:17, January 9, 2009

TP Bonus During Footwork

Yea we all know the formulas and all of that when you hit something. I'd like to point out that while taking physical damage you can get 7%TP and while taking magical damage you can get 14%TP!!!! It may be less for some people though cause had a Brutal Earring on. --Freezepop

Confirmed that there is a TP bonus for physical damage taken while Footwork is active. TP gained from Alraunes (Mandies in Bibiki Bay) went from about 1 to 4 (1.1 to 3.8?) when Footwork was activated. It is possible, based on the TP calculations that Footwork disregards the 1/3 modifier of the attackers TP gain. More testing is needed. --KosnIre 19:44, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Weaponskill with Footwork?

Is it possible to use weaponskills whilst under the effect of Footwork? --Giddels 21:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes. I get 43% TP with Asuran Fists using Footwork and with a Chivalrous Chain. Pretty unfair and awesome if you ask me. Shentok 01:12, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

The comment that only the first 2 hits of a WS get boosted tp doesn't seem to work out. Spinning attack gives 13 TP, Howling Fist gives 26, Combo gives 32, and Asuran gets 43, but, the old caculation method 13+13 + 1+1+1+1+1+1 doesn't add up, as that would be 32. If its 3 39+5 is 44, but thats still not 43. Vyvian 05:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Did you add in the Store TP+1? Shentok 13:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Dune Boots

Dune Boots also enhance this ability very nicely, testing in Xarcabard on the weapons there showed 114-151 damage without the dunes, and 175-220 with. --Dinh 02:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted to state that I have a 58 MNK and I don't have Footwork yet. So it's somewhere past this level.

This works for Dune Boots area... Your kicks are given a definate bonus in damage. Unarmed, Kicks did 90-100 damage when they proc before, and jumped to 120-140 damage per kick after Footwork is activated. At 75 capped H2H skill, this would give a Dune Boot wearer ~60 DMG for kicks. Since WSs return Kick TP and not normal TP, it may be safe to assume that WS damage will be that of the feet and its damage, not the weapons on the hands. Dune Boots are going to be camped a lot soon... --Deraverse 05:08, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Got Dune Boots two days before the patch. Glad I did, can't believe how much this helps in dealing damage with this ability. Saw someone with Wulong Shoes +1 testing out Footwork too. Shentok 14:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

TP Items

I noticed that in Besieged that when I used a Daedalus Wing with Footwork on it gave me full TP instead of the normal 100. SE is definitely going to be patching this Mike23 10:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Double Attack

Double Attack and Kick Attack can activate on the same round with Footwork. It is rare to see this because each has a low activation rate so getting them to activate on the same round, and not just separate ones, can be difficult. Here is an image of them activating on the same round: http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/phateddemise/footworkdblatt.png --Baelorn 11:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

As to Kick Attack and Double Attack stacking, until there's a screenshot using timestamp, I doubt anyone will accept it as solid proof. --Theytak 16:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Would like to note that you don't always attack with both feet. But this isn't a result of double attack. With double attack you kick with the same foot twice. With two attacks in the same round, each kick is from a different foot and is shown in the animation. Shentok 14:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Not true since as MNK/DNC and MNK/NIN I have kicked twice with the same foot and both feet during Footwork. So picking out which kick is a double attack is even harder considering this. Just attacking you can attack either foot for just 1 hit. --Griefy 23:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, that second kick is a proc from Kick Attacks. Shentok 23:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't use Windower so they aren't getting a Time Stamp from me but I'm curious how more people have not seen the Double Attack proc with Kick Attacks. I have seen it multiple times and I haven't even merited with it yet. Why not use MNK/WAR with a Brutal and Fighter's roll? That should clear it up quickly. --Baelorn 11:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Spent a couple hours in Beaucedine as Mnk/War just bashing on Elementals with Footwork up, and never once saw a 3-kick attack round. As far as I could tell, Double Attack procs caused you to attack with the same foot twice, and Kick Attacks procs caused you to attack with alternating feet. Would definitely consider removing the statement in question from the article. Greatguardian 20:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Baelorn was correct about Double Attack and Kick Attack activating in the same round with Footwork. I had it happen several times right after I bought my enhanced "Kick Attack" boots. However, ever since they did the follow up update to fix Sneak Attack and several other issues I have not had the 3 kick attacks occur and my double kick attacks are occurring much less frequently. I had an almost 50% double kick rate before the fix and about a 10% after. I guess it was an unintended oversight that was quickly corrected. --Nilotec 16:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Haste effect on footwork?

"Delay is modified by Haste spells and Haste equipment but Weapon delay has no impact on base delay." Are we sure about this? Everyone on the BG forum thread seems to suggest otherwise that haste has little to no effect on kick speed. http://www.bluegartrls.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34673&start=90

I'll post back on this later today. I'm going to go out with a BRD friend of mine and throw up 2 March and wear haste gear and do some test. Since I plan on being on PS2 at the time, ill have her parse it and such. --Griefy 07:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm Curious if DNC's Haste Samaba will effect this ability. For the most part, another 5% haste would help MNK's out in long run.--Azaron 16:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

It still gives the Haste Samba Animation when using Footwork, all i can say for it as i havent parsed it --GodsBlackArm 03:22, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll answer this: Haste of any sort didn't use to affect this, but after the same update that removed the massive TP gains it could gain from things like icarus wings and taking damage, it also changed it so haste works (My theory is that Footwork used to give it's odd TP by being a very low delay weapon, with a massive haste effect and tripling all TP recieved, and that it has now been changed to a less dodgy setup). So, haste does work now. The reason why weapon delay doesn't affect it is that you're not using your h2h weapons to attack with, so stats such as weapon damage, delay, additional effects, and other "weapon only" stats, don't affect you at all. Things like stat gains, counter+, and other such things on your h2h weapon will effect you even with footwork up however. In short, haste effects should work, and depending on how exactly haste samba works, it should help as well. --Urth 03:38, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Faith Baghnakhs

Does having these equipped while on footwork effect allow you to give an extra kick consuming a virtue stone? --Zorax 04:21, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Tested with Faith Baghnakhs and Virtue Stones. No stones were consumed across ~25 fights and kick rate was the same.--Baelorn 13:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

[That's too bad.] :( Thank you for the testing Baelorn. --Zorax 14:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

WS Points Affected?

A friend of mine is having trouble breaking his destroyers. He has done over 500 Points worth of Weapon skills and Skillchains, but neither of us are noticing a difference. The only ability he was using was Footwork.

I realize the possibility of a miscalcuation is always a possibility, but is it possible that footwork always affects the acquisition of WS Points?

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