Talk:Final Sting

This is a magical damage ability as it can go through Paladin's 2-hour ability Invincible.

• Changed damage type to magic, since it will still do damage while invincible is up which again kinda means it has to be magic damage even tho it totaly looks very much like physical damage XD --Marelia
• doesnt Vorpal Blade go through Invincible too? maybe its a special attack. Sickle Slash goes through shadows though its a physical attack (doesnt go through shadows for blue mages though)-Defiledsickness
• This ability is a physical one, can be noted by the the posted image as it says the type that it is, and by the in game graphic next to the spell name in the list. I.E.: Magic Hammer strikes physically but is still classified as a magical attack. Zeargi
• Additionally, no Magical Blue Magic spells have TP modifiers ("Damage varies with TP") so it is indeed a physical spell. My guess is that it's physical version of Self-Destruct, though I wonder what the algorithms are here. It could be like a Physical Breath Spell. --Eremes 17:30, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
• Added "Unlike Self-Destruct, this spell will not leave the user with Weakness afterwards; it will however leave you with 1 HP." to the main page; just got done testing this out and I don't believe it's a glitch. I think SE wanted to make it an enhanced version of Self-Destruct. RedDragon08 17:33, September 9, 2010 (UTC) Edit: As far as damage goes, I tried this spell for fun on a Pachypodium to see what I could hit for. Did CA, and healed to full (1.7kish HP w/ HP boost) and hit for 2404. Needless to say that if this spell can do these kinda numbers on some NM's w/ CA and even our 2hr up and Efflux, it could be extremely useful. I plan to try with 300% TP next time w/ 2hr up. RedDragon08 14:50, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
• I'd think 1 HP is dangerous enough without weakness. As for the magical/physical debate... it's physical. The spell says it's physical, and if it bypasses Invincible then that's just an extra awesomeness or a glitch. Personally I'd like to think it was intentional, since if you're going to blow all your HP into an attack, then it better not be able to be completely ignored by things like Invincible. --◄Chrisjander► t/ c 17:38, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

• The comments about it going through Invincible and being magical are left over from when this was only a mob ability, and not Blue Magic. They are talking about the mob version, not the BLU spell. Clearly our version works different than the mob version, as with many blue magic spells. I wouldn't be surprised at all if this doesn't go through Invincible when cast by a BLU. --Kyrie 11:30, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Silly question: Does Stoneskin prevent you from being dropped to 1HP?

Since it drops you to 1HP, the overall MP efficiency of this spell will be fairly low (since you or a party member will need to use MP healing you back to full). Given the 1 Set Point Cost, it does indeed seem like an upgrade to Self-Destruct and primarily for planned wipe situations... or being a jerk in Ballista! :3 --Eremes 22:35, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Any word as to whether this stacks with Sneak Attack? --Eremes 03:50, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Tried Sneak Attacking Final Sting on a Goblin outside Jeuno. Did 400 Damage, at full HP and almost died to the goblin because of it. Going to guess by the numbers that it doesn't work with Sneak Attack. --Lunaretic 11:23, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

--LMAO and no stoneskin doesnt stop you from hitting 1 hp, only from not losing that 1hp should you not kill the monster :P and with such a long cast time I wouldn't expect sneak attack to work.--Defiledsickness

- Seems to be greatly influenced by type of mob. Tried it 3 times on lizards and got 0 damage. Looks like it's best used on plant mobs.