I got 400 Cruor from this, not 200, so I assume theres some amount of randomness to the reward/some other factor? Editing main page to reflect the reward range. --Lukaryu 23:11, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

400 might only be from your first try. --KigenAngelo 14:28, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I got 400 as well from first try --Tsuzee 10:40, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

The time the ??? remains in one place is a bit more than 10 min (maybe 10:10) but it repeats the pattern(assuming you are going by time instead of ??? sequence) every 2 hours, so if it were to appear on the 12:00pm hour mark in the Shore Spider location it would be there at 2:02pm. I've found it useful to make a graph of where the ??? will be hours from now so I never have to waste any time looking for it if I've taken a break, which is certainly valuable with visitant status. also on a side note: I've accumulated 8 WHM, 3 THF, 3 SAM, 1 BST seals, my WHM is 57 both my SAM and THF are 75 and my BST is 85. I thought this was just a very interesting coincidence GL on your Seals^^ --Gov 21:20, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Mind sharing this wonderful graph? I've spent a lot of freetime searching for these ??? to raise my abyssea fame here; but all i've found so far is the colibri NM spawn, the NM spawn by the peiste, and the same for the bugards. I've srearched all 4 areas in under 10 minutes so I must be missing somthing... Tandem 02:36, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

It's not a map of positions it's a time graph. as for positions start with Conflux:#00 head SW Look out for the Truesound NM spider Athames or something. you should be able to see the ??? to your right within 6-7 steps while heading SW if not then continue to and through the passageway leading to the Coastal Colibri area. Once there head SSW to H-8/9 at the top of the hill leading down to the Frigate birds (it's not near the bats) if no ??? around head to Conflux:#04 and use it to get to Conflux:07 from there head east until you see Pieste, the ??? is just inside the roaming area of them. if not continue east to the Bugards. The ??? in the Bugard area is just north of the passageway leading to Conflux:#08 (if you are facing north at the mouth of the passage you should be able to target it) if you dont see it after this, repeat.. it should be at Shore Spider location. --Gov 10:01, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you /SO/ much for that detailed run-through. Highly appreciate it. Tandem 04:35, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

When the ??? was at spiders, I was able to make 3 runs checking the ???. When at birds, I was able to make 2 runs. Pieste I could make 2-3 runs and Bugard I could make 2 runs. I spent 300+ min to get 8 Whm seals, 5 Thf seals, and an unknown number on Bst and Sam (as I chucked them over the maw on my way out).--Redryno Levithan 17:18, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Drop Rate

Currently I have traded 6 stacks of Galkan Sausage, I have gotten; DRK;6, RDM;12, PUP;9(tossed), RNG;6. That means in 72 trades, i have 33 seals. The last 12 trades, i have received 0 seals. Same as the cookbook quest which i do at the same time. AnestiRamuh

Many people have added their results to the drop rate on the front page. We got up to 1500 reports of drop results and the averages for each seal stabilized between 5 and 6% so this seems to be the drop range. Other people have repeatedly erased those original accumulated results, so I will stop trying to restore them, and will let my personal contribution of a grueling 202 runs go unnoted, but I can say that the expected drop rate is between 5 and 6% per job based on a lot more reliable data than is currently being used on the front page.--Zelfyn 11:41, September 24, 2010 (UTC)


Added a Verification Needed on bugard sound aggro. From my experience they do not aggro to sound (which is weird since they are bugards). This would be easy to check and to adjust to whatever is correct. I may just be lucky ^^. --Flippjenny 15:45, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Pretty sure they aggro to sound, I've put sneak up on many occasion and not gotten aggro but when sneak would wear very rarely at the last minute, I would get an aggro and would need to escape. Removed the tag since I'm nearly absolutely certain they aggro to sound. Nearly all, if not all bugard family mobs aggro to sound. --Xynthios 23:00, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

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