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The pull one tactic didn't work for me and my group. Both of them are underwater, making them out of range for any ability. The only way to get them above was to aggro them both.

just finished this killing only 1. might have aggroed, but didn't have to aggro pull both at once. --vm0d 23:20, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

Testimonials

    • Soloable by a 75 BLM/RDM, I wasnt able to pull just one using Sneak I think its been updated to prevent this however you can pull by Casting Gravity onto Valor and run to the near by zone Honor will stop to cast on you. Wait at the zone if possible and cast Bio II on Valor and then zone to get rid of Honor. Zone back in and Valor will be slowly moving back to spawn area, Blizzard IV, Bind, Gravity, Bio II, on Valor and Zone as needed. Using Bind i was able to rest for two tics before it wore off.
    • A 75 RDM/NIN can melee solo Valor by using Chainspell Utsusemi: Ni during Hundred Fists.
    • Soloable by a 75 RDM/BLU with -20% physiscal damage gear and a Tavnazian Taco, Bind while Hundred Fists was not nessesary.
    • Easily Duoed by 75 RDM/BLM and a 75 NIN/DNC. Rdm kites Honor around & away from Nin while Nin easily takes down Valor, was hardly hit in full evasion gear. After nin is done, bring back Honor and kill it. Silence only stuck once (even failed 2nd try with Elemental Seal), but Paralyze II and Slow II stuck easily. Nin only used 8 Shihei, 2 Sairui-Ran and 2 Kaginawa tools total between the 2 of them.
    • Can be trioed with ease by Thf x2 and Whm at 75. Counter Hundred Fists with Perfect Dodge or Elemental Seal Paralyze
    • Soloable by a skilled RDM/NIN. Pop them with sneak on, pull Valor away from Honor and kill it while Honor despawns.
    • Soloable by PLD/RDM using Flash > Stoneskin roatation when needed. Used full 300TP Chivalry around 60% HP. During Hundred Fists use Invincible then use Sentinel as soon as Invincible wears off. If you have Crimson Cuisses you can kite just before Invincible wears. Ice Trousers may make this easier since it is sometimes hard to get Stoneskin back up with it's multiple attacks. Finished the fight with about 75% of my HP and 20% MP.
    • Soloable by a skilled PLD/RDM with ease, but don't take Hundred Fists lightly, use Sentinel and Invincible.
    • Soloable by 75 DRG/RDM. Started with TP from worms, full buffs, and an Icarus Wing. Use Super Jump > Spirit Surge > Super Jump to avoid Hundred Fists.
    • Duoed by 75PLD/WAR and 75BLM/WHM; PLD didn't need to use 2hr, just Chivalry. BLM keep DoTs up and paralyze then nuke under 50% HP
    • Soloable by 75 WHM/NIN. Bring mp drinks and defense food. During his Hundred Fists kite till your hp is low and use Benediction.
    • Duoable in less than a minute by a PUP75 and a BLU75 starting at 300TP on both players and the Automaton using the Skillchain Howling Fist >> Vorpal Blade >> Armor Piercer (with 3 Fire Maneuvers and a Flame Holder)
    • A BST75 can solo Honor with two CourierCarrie jugs; come /WHM for Paralyna and bring Echo Drops.
    • Both were easily trioed by two 75 BLMs and one 75 RDM by simply nuking and kiting.
    • A RDM75 and NIN75 are able to duo Honor without much trouble.
    • Also a WHM75 and a WAR75 can easily duo Honor.
    • Duoed by a 75RDM/NIN and 75WHM/BLM
    • Easily duoed by a 75WAR/NIN and 75PUP/DNC
    • Easily soloed by a 75THF/NIN (with high evasion) using NPC (lv68) for buffs and occasionnal cure.
    • Valor is soloable by a non merited 75PLD/DNC using a Tavnazian Taco. Only had to kill the one to finish. Bibiki seashell was a godsent, it intimidated every 5-6 hits.

rank points

it actually took 9 bat fangs each for myself and my friend to get the rank points for this mission.

Warning

Don't kill the first one until the other one despawns, otherwise you will have to wait an undetermined amount of time before spawning them to 'retry'.(Also meaning you don't get the key item.)

Solo feasibility

As has been noted already, this mission is easily soloable by a RDM/NIN using Chainspell Utsusemi when Valor uses Hundred Fists. Just make sure to have a fresh Stoneskin up a little over 50% HP so you don't get popped hard when he firsts uses it. He does have pretty decent accuracy (for a RDM's evasion, anyways), but I'm not sure if it's so high that a THF/NIN couldn't solo this as well, using Perfect Dodge to counter Hundred Fists. If you have an NPC fellow they can be used on this mission, having an emergency Cure V at your disposal is very helpful. Also, I editted out the comment about not being able to complete the mission by killing only one. Just did this on 1/12/08 and it still works fine, just don't kill Valor before Honor despawns. --Onyxium 05:36, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Honor

Popped Invincible on my last group to do this mission. We were fighting both at once because somebody couldn't follow instruction. --1.quos.vita.habitum.captivus 11:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Confirmed Duo

As of this post I literally did this fight less than 3 min ago with a 75MNK/NIN and 75BLM/WHM. BLM pulled with sneak up (still works)and Asuran Fist knocked off 25% of Valors life. I had to back tank until he did HF after only a couple shots while waiting for Honor to despawn. All in all much easier than expected. 8/07/08


Solo

I solo'd this as a 73Rdm/whm by sneak poping staying to the right depoping sneak since they dont link bio II gravity bind valor. and blizzard III when nessarcary zone but poisonII right b4 Very easy solo

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