Synthed without skillup at Smithing 24, Goldsmithing 27. --Claquesous 04:14, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

2 synths, no skillup and no breaks at goldsmithing level 9 and smithing 21. Not a really meaningful sample, I know, I'll add info as more obsidian comes my way. --Vaprak 19:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

HQ 1 synth by Goldsmithing 41, Smithing 69. Lukiki 05:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

HQ 1 synth at Smithing 26 and Goldsmithing 21. --BroneDragon 04:49, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Was making some of these for my ww mule to skill on (Really easy synth for a bridge to beetle arrows) and on my main I got a skill up going to 3 and got one after http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd190/Ryden242/Goldskillup.png

so the actual sub for gold is higher than 3 maybe 4+ ninja edit: and the smithing sub's actually lower than 14, at 7 I haven't gotten one skill up and no critical breaks--Kohki 01:39, December 23, 2009 (UTC)