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''Confirmed that if you get Key Item then switch job to anything under 91 you cannot enter. Even with the Key Item in your possession. 91+ only

Someone will want to format this properly, but here's my experience with this fight. The enemy: He is a MNK, doesn't cast magic of any sort, though has an occasional additional effect on his swings that is fairly potent. He is capable of using any H2H WS, including MNK and PUP mythic WSs, relic WS, and empyrean WS. He will often use two WSs back to back, which can self skillchain if he uses victory smite. He can use hundred fists and even use formless strikes with hundred fists which dominates invincible.

Now for my experience with beating this BC without relying on 6 pet jobs. Our setup was PLD/WAR MNK/WAR DRK/SAM WHM/RDM RDM/BLM BRD/???. The DRK had 95 apocalypse and both the MNK and the PLD were using tavnazian tacos and defender. With tavnazian tacos, defender, and gearing for defense really, normal WSs and melees are a joke to PLD unless he self skillchains. However, the important part is that the apocalypse DRK was doing 100-200 damage catastrophes, the PLD was doing 200 damage Chant Du Cygnes with defender up, but I was doing 420+ asuran fists with defender and tavnazian taco on MNK, and my normal swings were hitting for 60-90 damage. This is an oldschool fight so asuran fists is really good on this. I ended up tanking it the last half of the fight pulling so much hate from WSs, and survived hundred fists thanks to amazing curing from RDM and WHM. I died @ 1% but that was because he SC'd me. Honestly, without a hint of gloating, i'm confident my MNK/WAR using tavnazian taco and defender did almost as much, maybe as much or more damage, than both the apocalypse DRK and almace PLD combined. We didn't use any 2hrs during the fight. (well, don't know if DRK did or not but even if he did it didn't do any damage, almost positive he didn't however)

My recommended strategy that I believe will make this fight much easier, is WHM WHM BRD MNK MNK and either a 3rd MNK or a 3rd WHM, depending on how good the 2 WHMs and 2 MNKs are. Gear the MNKs /WAR using tavnazian tacos and defender, focusing on defense to survive. Then just beat on the taru using asuran fists (not ascetic's fury and i'm confident even victory smite won't outdamage asuran fists on this) and having the WHMs cure bomb like there's no tomorrow. I had march and minuet songs on my MNK but if you have 2 MNks, especially if you have 3, i'd recommend using march and minne. Soul voice is just a bonus, we didn't use any 2 hours (i think, guaranteed we didn't use BRD WHM RDM PLD or MNK 2 hours :P)

This is a horribly formatted post but I wanted to get my experience up to hopefully make this fight a whole lot easier for everyone. If someone can reformat this sometime correcting punctuation, grammar, and capitalization, i would be grateful. good luck! (copied this over from previous quest talk page, not sure where it should be posted, someone format properly please :3) --Garadante 03:12, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Just beat this fight on the first try, party setup was MNK/NIN X4, RDM/BLM X1, BRD/WHM X1. First thing we did was of coarse buff up with protect/shell/reraise we went in and the mnk started boosting for a real good chi blast at the begining. Next came soul voice with double minuet, mnks all run in, 2hr hundred fists, rdm CSS, he went down pretty fast, near the end it got a little hecktic due to his ws one shotting some of the mnks, at that point our rdm>>> Myojin just ran around in a circle while the mnks chased it around using chi blast and hitting him! Hope this helps! :) --Goodgravy 04:22, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

When you trade the three items Degenhart wants for the 'training', he gives you the Rare/Ex item, Olde Rarab Tail. I don't know it's effects yet. >>>>