Can we discuss / agree upon a policy for Enemy special attacks/abilities? I personally would not be opposed to having them re-direct to the enemy category page, but I can also see the argument for deleting them entirely. Either way, let's make it formal so we can add it to this article in the appropriate place (if it's going to be forbidden, it probably either falls under the Unnecessary redirect clause or the Terminology clause). --Divisortheory 11:40, 16 May 2007 (CDT)
User page subpages[]
I have seen some user pages with subpages; These seem unnecissary, do they fall under this policy? (And this is policy right, not guidelines?) Tahngarthor 19:38, 18 July 2007 (CDT)
- They are allowed. FFXIclopedia:User Pages. --GAHOO t/ c 20:19, 18 July 2007 (CDT)
Advertisement section[]
I think it sounds better like this, any thoughts? --User:Charitwo/Sig 20:22, 19 July 2007 (CDT)
Articles related to the advertisement or sale of any material not advocated, distributed, or published by Square Enix or its affiliates are prohibited. This includes, but is not limited to, any mods, accessories, programs or other related add-ons to the game other than the actual Final Fantasy XI game product itself or any of its expansions.
- No, because SE and/or its affiliate advocated the Logitech Rumplepad 2 for the PC and I don't want to see adverts for that either. The only products I ever want to see here are the original game and its expansions. --User:Mierin/Sig 05:13, 20 July 2007 (CDT)
Definitions[]
It is spelled incorrectly under terminology/slang.--Nuala Phoenix 17:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Revision of the .dat files only policy[]
Since the whole Vulcan's Ring issue was resolved by deletion, i would like to bring forth my disagreement and protest here. Items might not be in game, in .dat or might not even ever been anywhere in the programm, as long as the community talks about it, information about it should be in this Wiki. We can and will state that the item is a rumor / nonexistant / whatever. But simply deleting stuff like the Vulcan's Ring is a loss of information about the game. As stated previously, there are other sources of information for FFXI, and the list the Vulcan's Ring without any other note. We now do not have any info on it. So people will continiue to believe the item exists. And we are one of the causes because we do not clarify the issue, even though we know better. Sad. --Gisselle 16:15, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- This was discussed amongst the administrators, and we came to a resolution of deletion. The main reason is, the wiki is for factual content, not stuff that was mistakenly added and consequently removed from the DATs. It's not a loss of information about the game. Just because a few people want to keep it doesn't mean anything when it has no significant impact on the game, it's content, or value. People who are not DAT miners won't even know what these items are. It's not just the rings, it was items like Iceman, Snowman, Frostman, Onion Bandana, Dia Sash, Utopia Obi, etc. FFXIclopedia is a database of ever growing content and we shouldn't distract ourselves with items, monsters, etc that never existed or were obtainable in any fashion when we can be focusing our time on things new and genuine. These reasons is are why this policy exists, and why it is unlikely to change. --User:Charitwo/Sig 16:23, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Then i discuss it here again! What you are saying is, that we rather fail to have information than be complete for reason of a rule. Do i get that right? --Gisselle 16:29, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- It's pointless discussing it, it was already discussed and the resolution made. It's not going to make us complete, these items do not exist. FFXIclopedia is not the place for these items, it is for real, genuine content. --User:Charitwo/Sig 16:33, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
However, we do have various flavor articles, such as the Dictionary of Terms and Slang. Gisselle, if you would like to create a "history" page, with a brief discussion of items that once may have been in the dat files, but no longer exist, that would be great. Then that page would come up on any searches people do, and they could read the brief explanation of the history of the item and find out that it no longer exists. --FFXI-Mierin Talk / Contrib 17:30, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
@ Mierin Hmm. I gladly would do so, but i lack the in depth knowledge for it. I'll give it a try, to at least start a page. History: Items Out of Use --Gisselle 20:27, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, the page exists, and all the 102 Goldsmithing rings are recreated as redirects there. Placed the stub-tag on the page so that more items will be added. --Gisselle 20:48, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Do you think there should also be reference sources to verify that they were once available in the game data files? Such as linking to an article from a reputable location that does have archived information about things that were at one time found by dat mining. The rings listed now I do know were in the dats before but I would also hate to see the page be changed to bring up rumored or fake things, or even unverified claims. How should the accuracy of the page be handled? --Wayka †Talk† 23:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Difficult to say, since these sources might also adjust their Database at some point. A lot of good will of the community is needed here, since most sites do not give further detail to items like that. Somepage seems to keep items forever, so this might be a good reference. --Gisselle 05:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Redirects[]
I just got chastised by an admin for adding unnecessary Redirects. Could you be a little more specific about what is and isn't allowed? From this section, I have no idea what actually IS allowed. --Kraftlos 11:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- Anything that involves a misspelling, variation in casing, or an abbreviation. Examples(all of which have been used before):
- Ouyru -> Ouryu
- Ryl.Sqr.Halberd -> Royal Squire's Halberd
- Silent oils -> Silent Oil
Due to the way search works, the last is not allowed. Misspellings are a given. And naming conventions require we expand on abbreviations, so those aren't allowed either. Those are the 3 most common unnecessary redirects, but there is the occasional wierd one, but that's on a case-by-case basis. --User:Charitwo/Sig 13:43, 27 December 2007 (UTC)