So is there no way in which I can edit the font type? I want to change a few words from the standard wiki font to "Courier New" to show it is a command. Such as msconfig. --Drow 16:21, 11 November 2006 (EST)

Ah found it on google somewhere: msconfig It works :D --Drow 09:47, 13 November 2006 (EST)

Shouldn't the Sandbox link actually link to the Wiki Sandbox instead of that deambig page? Just a thought. Kenada 23:00, 7 December 2006 (EST)

Hi I'm trying to save room (condense stuff) on my User page, and I see on other pages that people have sections where there are two columns on one part and a full length section of another part. I've tried to figure out the column code but everytime I try it doesnt work out. Could someone help me? Thank You - Demigoddess 19:23, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

  • I have the same problem as you, could someone add a column guide in the editing guide or something please? :) XsiX 19:18, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

Well, I'm not writing it out again ;). Check out the explaination in the FFXIclopedia:How to use the Item Template and other useful Editing Tips. --Chrisjander 21:37, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

Sources and References

Shouldn't there be some emphasis on having sources and references when adding/editing info? (Seems to be a Wiki thing; on Wikipedia, they often mark passages with "reference needed".) Currently, a recent edit on Cover has me scratching my head on why someone changed duration from 0:15 to 0:30 without leaving a single word on where he found that info. Would be nice if people make it a habit to link to references. =/ --Itazura 16:58, 6 June 2007 (CDT)

If major changes are made to something that has been in place for a long time, they should put something in the talk page discussing why it was changed. They didn't do so and since there has been response that it shouldn't of been changed it can be reverted back with a {{verification}} flag. --Wayka †Talk† 17:09, 6 June 2007 (CDT)
Discussion is nice, but I think this Editing Guide needs to make clear that users should cite evidence supporting their statements and edits, whenever possible.
A related issue: source and citation for information, on the main page. This doesn't seem to be a practice here, but perhaps it should be encouraged? Take Wikipedia's Mobile Suite Gundam: The 08th MS Team entry's References section, for example. --Itazura 18:33, 6 June 2007 (CDT)
Cites probably won't be linked on the main page but users could be encouraged to put them on the talk pages if they obtained the information from another source. If they did the tests themselves, they should cite their investigations on the talk page. --Wayka †Talk† 18:35, 6 June 2007 (CDT)


Why exactly are the element color templates being used for general color templates? I'll give you an example of why this is bad:

Say that one day, we decide that whenever there is fire text, it should appear in italics and have a fire icon with a link to the element page after the text (I know it's unlikely, but it's just an example, go with it). Given this situation, if you had used the {{Fire}} template irresponsibly on everything that was red and bolded, you'd have to go back and change all those pages in order to update for the new formatting.

If we're going to use templates for all colored text, let's create a template similar to Fontcolor and use that instead (maybe even add a #switch so the element colors are accepted or you can opt for bold as well). ~ Karuberu 18:51, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

Well. While I do not see any changes being made the above crystal templates in the future, I do understand your P.O.V. and am not adverse to the addition of other color templates for things none crystal related. It would require alot of effort though to revert the pages that were un-crystal related. But I do see the benefit. I mean - It is silly to have {{Fire}} on something completely not fire related. But its just as silly to have templates that preform the exact same function as another. I would only see use for it if we were going to change something in the future rather than not. Or I see a use for the addition of other color templates to ease the typing that new colors bring. So, if a change was to be made, someone would have to be dedicated to changing all the old links. But if no one is willing to do that - than I opt to keep as it is and don't oppose new colors. --Nynaeve 19:10, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

On a side note. It seems that the template is used for Crystal Colors and for Referencing the actual Element. As in weak to and strong to on Mob Pages or the type of Magical Spell such as on the Blue Mage page. I am unsure that Karu meant to keep it solely for Crystals or for crystals and elements. Because both apply IMO to the usages of say Fire or Water. I do know there are people out there like myself who used it in my guide or for example: User:Eazura who used them on their User Page. Its not just one color - each color seems to be used in various places and someone, if this was changed would need to alter all the misused ones out. I don't have any issues and wouldn't mind seeing more happen if someone would take responsibility for the alterations on everything rather than having it just on some rather than none. [P.S. Not my guide though... I can handle that provided you let me know if you make new templates - esp new colors - I like new colors and am fully capable of handling anything with my own name on it] --Nynaeve 19:28, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
Anything related to the element is fine in my opinion (crystals, spells, whatever). ~ Karuberu 19:44, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

Seems like a fine idea. Other then {{fire}} I don't think they are often used outside of element-related text. And the use of fire is probably my fault for using it on news and the front page. I would like to see how the proposed template would work, but sounds nice. --GAHOO t/ c 19:15, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
I think {{Water}} is used there too. ;) --Nynaeve 19:17, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
Personally, I like the element templates used as general coloring, it's a lot easier for those that do not have a good understanding of hex color codes or HTML to make things appear more neat, tidy, and presentable. --User:Charitwo/Sig 19:21, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

I can create a sample template if you want, but it should work something like this: {{Color|<color>|<text>}}. Fontcolor supports highlighting as well as coloring, but since we don't use highlighting, I may just take that capability away for simplicity's sake. Also, it could either be bold by default or have a seperate decalarion for it: {{Color|<color>|<style>|<text>}}. ~ Karuberu 19:44, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

I opt for bold - can always unbold it by putting the ''' ''' around it. I find 10x more use out of bold rather than not. --Nynaeve 19:49, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
Considering that there are no changes being proposed to the existing templates, the only issue here is creating a new tamplate that is more variable in that it handles any color, and editing the Editing Guide accordingly. --GAHOO t/ c 20:18, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
Created Template:Color. I already programmed it with {{Earth}}'s "beige" and {{Ice}}'s "light blue" since they're used in the editing guide. More colors can be added to the #switch later if they're needed. ~ Karuberu 21:29, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
Added a color for "NM", and colors for "positive", "negative", and "neutral" (for food effects) to take dependency off of the element templates and make standardization easier. ~ Karuberu 21:43, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

Notorious Monster I like it. --User:Charitwo/Sig 21:48, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

By the way, case doesn't matter, so {{Color|NM|Notorious Monster}} and {{Color|nm|Notorious Monster}} both work. ~ Karuberu 21:52, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

Nice. Fact is that if this was used everywhere (i.e. food, etc.) we could change colors on the fly. But that's a lot of work for no real benefit at the current time. --GAHOO t/ c 21:54, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

Could always make a collaboration out of it and change the editing guide accordingly, but that's up to you. --User:Charitwo/Sig 21:55, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

10/28/08 Change

I refined the placement of the Table of Contents by adding a margin and placing it within the first segment so it sits more nicely on the page. And added TOC to this page for easy access.Egomzez

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