Category talk:Chocobo Raising

Ladykali 00:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)Please see History of Chocobo Raising for a history of edits and editors to this page. --Mierin 14:00, 28 August 2006 (EDT)

What does the circle in the graph represent? --Aelis 01:03, 31 August 2006 (EDT)

It indicates the care plans in which you receive payment in gil for your chocobo's services, if I'm looking at the right circles. --Ichthyos 01:19, 31 August 2006 (EDT)

My chocobo has grown large enough to ride at day 29. Tahngarthor 16:18, 19 September 2006 (EDT)

My last two chocobos have hatched on day 4, become an adolescent on day 18-19, and become an adult on day 29. :3 --Shioki 16:31, 19 October 2006 (EDT)

Does anyone have the pic from SE that showed the colors of the chobi from Adolescent to Adult? -- Silentsteel

Effects of Chocobo Feed

This section is for discussion of the effects of chocobo feed--greens in particular.

• When feeding my chocobo Sharug Greens, it's affection jumped from "likes being around you" to "regards you as it's parent" while having a minimal effect on hunger, which suggests that Sharug greens are for raising affection during feeding. I've added this to the effect for Sharug Greens on both its page and this one. If anybody has further information, list it here. -- Quanta 22:47, 3 September 2006 (EDT)
  • I'm not sure about the Sharug Greens effect on this, but I've seen similar results using Gysahl Greens. My chocobo went from 'slightly enjoy your company' to 'like you pretty well' (fed her 2 gysahl, 1 sharug). She also went from starving to completely full. Rirotiro 19:08, 5 July 2007 (CDT)

• I fed it San d'Oria Carrot after i took it for a walk (while using Basic Care), and found its stamina bar the next day from 75% to 95%. Its suggested it either raises stamimna or energy. --Ayrlie 20:39, 7 September 2006 (CDT)
  • I don't think San d'Oria Carrots actually have any effect...the chocobo's stamina bar raising from 75% to 95% the next day is normal. The stamina bar ALWAYS refills when the chocobo's day changes, minus a tiny bit of stamina from feedings. The only thing I know of that restores stamina is a Chocolixir or a Hi-Chocolixir. ^^ --Shioki 22:45, 26 September 2006 (EDT)
    • my experiments with the San D'Orian carrots has led me to believe that their effect is one causing a high energy/high receptability state on the chocobo for the next day's care and feed. it also seems to raise affection more than the other carrots do. --Catharsis of valefor 01:50, 2 September 2007 (CDT)
    • Shioki, Worm Paste or a Gregarious worm will also restore a small amount of stamina, although much less than a Chocolixir. --FFXI-Guppy 00:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

• I fed my choco parasite worms (wanted to see effect it created) three times when it was "receptible to anything you give it". Only noticeable thing for me was that the next day the chocobo was starving, regardless of how full it was the next day. After three parasite worms, my chocobo is starving every day which means I can use foods for stat boosts like vomp carrots or veggie pastes depending on if I want to boost str or affection. Anyone else try parasite worms and find any other effects? -- AcidReign 01:46, 24 October 2006
  • My chocobo is always starving the next day, and I've never given him anything but Vomp carrots. ;x I don't know what the parasite worms would do... -- Shioki 02:05, 26 October 2006

• Chocotonic appears to lead to a fit chocobo. I haven't tested this out on my chocobo (I have my feed plan established) but I have been selling this through bazaars (priced comparetively against the other feed). --Ayrlie 11:23, 15 November 2006

• Chocotonic is used to wake up your bird from the rest state. --Urat

• I believe feeding the Chocobo ANYTHING good raises affection. I have seen jumps in affection levels twice after feeding 3 Vomp Carrots, and once after feeding 3 Gysahl Greens. In all cases affection moved from "likes being around you" to "regards you as it's parent." -- Halplm 09:05, 16 August 2007
  • I've come to the same conclusion. I am feeding my Chocobo on 2 Zegham carrots and 1 San d'Orian carrot a day. After the 2 Zegham, i always check affection, before feeding the Sandy carrot. I have seen raises in affection levels 3 times after Zegham carrots, and once after Sandy carrot. –—Rikayuu 21:32, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

• Wasn't sure where to put this besides this page, since this is the article that mentions the color-glows that happen after you feed a Chocobo... I just received the message from the NPC saying my Chocobo would be responsive to anything that I gave to it, so I fed a Cupid Worm to it. It "munched contentedly" upon it, and yet it glowed blue. The article says blue glow may be affection being lowered or an ailment cured, but it couldn't have been either case, because the Chocobo ate it contentedly, and it didn't have an ailment, either. Thoughts? Alraunne 01:35, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

• Another odd thing I noticed... Today is my Chocobo's second day of adolescence, and he has the negative effect of being bored and restless. While he was bored and restless, I fed him two Zegham carrots. He ate them discontentedly, but as a chick he hadn't eaten this food discontentedly, instead he ate them quietly. Worried about his affection level, I fed him a sharug green- again, he ate it discontentedly. Yet, he still glowed pink, a sign of raised affection. Does the bored and restless condition cause Chocobos to eat anything/everything discontentedly? Or is it that he just doesn't like sharug greens now, and a chick eating food quietly is a sign of it eating it discontentedly in the future? I'd rather not keep him in this state to do more testing, for his sake. Alraunne 00:43, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

• From what I've seen, when my chocobos are bored and restless they eat everything discontentedly; when sick, they eat weakly regardless of the food. Also, following the upteenth time that my chocos disproved it, I removed the information about the blue glow on the article that stated that it was an indication of lowered affection or cured ailment. I get this glow somewhat often but haven't noticed a pattern, except that it doesn't result in a decrease in affection and the chocobo isn't sick. I've got an adolescent and two chicks going at the moment, so I'll start taking notes on the glows that I receive in hopes to discover a pattern to discuss with other breeders. --Lastarael 21:03, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Matchmaking

Any guesses on who's going to get to keep the offspring? o.O It seems a bit strange that they haven't released that information (or better yet, why no one but me seems to wonder). --Chacharu 12:22, 6 September 2006 (EDT)

I think they did... maybe. From what I remember, if I'm correct, someone has to give you their VCS card for you to breed with their chocobo (or vice versa). Then you turn them in, and you get to raise any eggs that result. --Chrisjander 22:06, 7 September 2006 (EDT)

I'm pretty sure the person that turns in the cards gets the egg. I'm guessing you simply get two cards, one for yourself and one to trade, that way you both get eggs. Since retired chocobos seem to still be able to mate we'll likely be able to breed chocobos without needing to trade with other players (though you'll have a shallow gene pool). --Emerje 20:43, 17 September 2006 (EDT)

When you ask for a card, you only get 1 card. It is 500 gil per card. You either trade your card to someone else or have someone else give you a card of the opposite sex. I went to Finbarr and chose Plan C, and wound up with an faintly warm egg after I waited a real life day. You can bazaar chocobo cards. --Ayrlie 10:18, 30 September 2006 (CDT)

Page naming

I'm not going through all the pages that fall in this category... but there are a good portion of them that should be moved to sub pages of other pages. We don't need 100 pages all beginnging in "Chocobo". --Ganiman 16:43, 14 September 2006 (EDT)

Okay so Sub pages to the Chocobo Raising for the Chocobo Raising Options and Subpages to Chocobo for chocobo abilities like Chocobo Strength? --Nynaeve 16:51, 14 September 2006 (EDT)

I think we need to see how this all plays out before moving everything. Strikes me that Chocobo will end up being a {{disambig}} page linking to riding, digging, raising and eventually racing. Then there should be one page for each of those chocobo related activities. Right now I think the chocobo raising commands can each have their own page, but again I think we need to let it play out and get a final, featured article status raising guide first. --Gahoo 15:37, 15 September 2006 (EDT)

Running Your Chocobo's HP Down To Zero

I've noticed that if I race, read a story or take my chocobo for a walk until it's HP are gone the next day she's sick and needs Tokopekko wildgrass. I'm not sure if this is something that happens to everyone or all the time. It's just an observation. --Reddove 1:34, 15 September 2006 (EDT)

That's not really HP, it's more of an energy meter. Lower energy would naturally increase the risk of illness. I never completely empty it but whenever it gets critically low my choc seems rather ill. I would recommend feeding it an energy boost or medicinal food whenever you intend on driving it hard out. -- Llana

I regularly run my chocobo's energy down as far as it will go and he has never been sick. The only status effects I've seen as of Day 27 is the "white handkerchief event" and recently he was bored, but no illnesses. --Emerje 20:23, 17 September 2006 (EDT)

Hmm... well I have encountered sick, and injured, but never bored, but from what I understand the more energy you leave it with at the end of the day, the better he rests/heals/works the following day (unless you leave him unattended that day). Llana 20:59, 17 September 2006 (EDT)

I'm not sure what triggers the boredom, just that it can be remedied by competing. I visit my chocobo every day at around the same time (4pm) and have ever since dropping off the egg. My brother on the other hand also had his chocobo become bored and he checks his very irregularly, often days away at a time. I think some status effects are simply random, but we wont know for sure until more people report on them. --Emerje 16:57, 18 September 2006 (EDT)

Chocobo Attributes

My Chocobo's Endurance just went from Poor to Substandard, is that better or worse? And has anyone else gotten anything else higher? Zagex 15:48, 16 September 2006 (EDT)

Poor is the lowest, substandard is the next level up. --Emerje 20:26, 17 September 2006 (EDT)

So far, my chocobo's Strength has gone from Poor to Substandard to A Bit Deficient. :3 Hopefully with the new update, we will see what the next levels are! --Shioki 05:02, 19 October 2006 (EDT)

Tell Story/Go on a Walk Differences

Tell a Story shows that Hantilion is met on a Regular walk for both Bastok and Windurst, however Go on a Walk shows that for Bastok Pulonono is met instead. Same with Pulonono being met; Tell a Story shows her being met on a Long walk for Bastok, but Go on a Walk shows it on a Regular walk. If only one page is correct, I'm assuming the Go on a Walk page is correct, but can't really be sure with the differing information.

But perhaps the trainers from other nations are met randomly on Regular or Long walks and it's different for some people? I'm raising in San d'Oria and I definately met Zopago & Blood in La Theine and Pulonono & Spring in Jugner. Has anyone raising in San d'Oria had it the other way around? --Strifey 14:05, 13 October 2006 (EDT)

Chocobo Breeds

It has been suggested before that the 5 warmth's of the Eggs are possibly indicative of Chocobo Breeds and, therefore, color. All 5 chocobo breeds have a high probability of being Yellow, but each egg warmth may help predict what color the chocobo has a chance of being if it is colored. I am trying to do some statistics research to see if the pattern I'm finding with my own Chocobos match up with others.
So far, I've hatched 2 Chocobos from "Bit Warm" Eggs and both turned out Blue, which may suggest that "Bit Warm" indicates a "Palfrey" Breed Chocobo and has a chance of being Blue.
My third chocobo was hatched from a "Faintly Warm" Egg and he is only an Adolescent, but his feather tips are Black. A few other people I have asked have said they have gotten Black Chocobos from Faintly Warm eggs, so "Faintly Warm" may indicate a "Destrier" Breed. The other 3 breeds mentioned by SE are the Courser(Chance of Red), Jennet(Chance of Green), and Rounsey(Yellow Only).
If you can remember what the egg warmth of your chocobo was, please post it along with the color of your adult chocobo (or tip-color of your adolescent chocobo).
Thank you for your assistance.
Hawkfangor 09:11, 7 December 2006 (EST)

The color of the chocobo has been proven extensively to depend on the stats a bird has when entering adolescent stage. The warmth of the egg influences how quickly the bird gains stats. A colder egg will take longer to gain stats, whereas the warm egg gains the tremendously faster.
Which also explains why warmer eggs seem to have higher chances of getting colored, due to increased stats via higher warmth. --urat 8:23, 25 February 2008

i believe you may be onto something here others have talked about the breeding of pure breeds and mixed breed well of course if you breed to black chocos your going to have at least a 75% chance of a black choco and that's saying both are mixed breeds.
while the fact that stats affect it i have still more research to go through before i will admit it ALTHOUGH i do believe it have an influence and even SE themselves have hinted that this is so.
i wonder is it possible that the fact that the black choco may be rigorously trained from a lower egg to have a better chance.... ill re post in a few days when i have calculated my data and remember people this isn't to determine whether if you breed them that its the sole reason they become this is mainly for those ppl who are new to raising chicks and chocos to get an idea of how to get the color of choco they desire - Remora: Takishi

Lost Chocobo Chicks

Has anyone come across a Lost Chocobo chick when they take their choco for a walk? I found a lost chick yesterday and so far I know it's owner's name begins with a C?! Is there a page already on this that I am missing?

Go on a Walk. Also, to sign your name, type ~~~~ or use the signature option available when editing a talk page. --Jopasopa 16:31, 13 January 2007 (EST)

Careplan Stats on the page?

On http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Chocobo_Raising#Care_Plans it shows the number of stats each careplan raises and decreases. It is accurate and been tested?

It takes 25~ points for a chocobo to increase in rank for an attribute, if the numbers are correct? My chocobo on 'carry packages' raises a rank approx every 4-5 days or so. Also, what does "x5%" mean? Petco 03:08, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

Chocobo born with ability.

Hey everyone.

Well I'm not sure if it was borne with the ability, but, after 1 walk, first day she learned auto-regen.

Thing is, I don't want auto regen, I want burrow and bore. Anyone know if it's possible to change your chocobos abilities?

Thankful for an answer.

Sindarea of Quetzalcoatl.

Chocobo's can inherit abilities from their parents. The walk had nothing to do with it though, lol. Also feeding it a parasite worm when it is in a perky state and responsive to what it eats, is rumored to remove an ability.

--urat 8:23, 25 February 2008

• My chocobo was lovesick all i did was long walk and it calmed down, removed the verification mark Kaisr

I've been raising chocobos since day 1 have over 12 across three char. Every chocobo thats been born from my red male with Gallop with the Sporting option picked for the Honeymoon when breeding two cards has been born with Gallop. Thats about 15 birds including friends and my own personal chocobos.

Lethe Potage and Lethe Consomme both erase abilities. --Lastarael 06:21, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

"Care For" options effect on stats

I can confirm that the Tell a Story option definitely raises Discernment. I did have "bright and unusually focused" at the time, but telling a story until my choco was inspired moved my Discernment from Outstanding to First Class. --halplm 22:17, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Color

I'm moving some information into the main article. Things I know are true (and I'm posting my results at http:www.rearviewofagenius.net/iain/cgp.html)

I've moved the following off of the main article for further discussion, this all seems speculative:

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(from experience, this information below about color is not true, please dont post information here before you confirm it)

-Alright a lot of speculation here and I will add my own as well but I have more experience than most in this respect and this idea taht choco color is not an inherited trait is completely absurd. I have personally raised 9 chocobos, 1 Yellow at first and then a male and female of Red, Blue, Green, and Black. I sell a ton of cards on my server and offer the guarantee that if the chocobo does not turn out to be the color of the parents on day 19 then I will give them a new set of cards. I have sold hundreds of sets of cards easily and here seems to be the fault in your theory that color is a factor of stats.

All my chocobo males are maxed out on physical stats with assorted abilites, All of my female chocos are maxed out mentally with assorted abilities. All are capped on affection before I retired them. So in effect each pair of colors has the same stats.

I have had a few rare instances of my blacks birthing red chicks, and other odd ball combinations but this is rare beyond belief, color is ONLY affected by parent color, in my opinion. I encourage every person who I sell cards to to keep in contact with me and let me know how things turn out so not only do i have my own 9 chocobos to look at for reference but the many many people I sell my cards to and who keep in contact with me. --Jurasco 00:32, 7 May 2008 (UTC).

— I concur. I've raised two blue Chocobos, and both of them had poor discernment and receptivity when the chick grew to adolescent stage and the color was determined. The "stat effects" on color and their "probabilities" that are listed here seem completely arbitrary. Aajok 20:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

- I Concur as well. Ive spent many years breeding and raising chocobos, and like Jurasco, Ive made my living off of those birds. Never, ever have i come acros any indication that any of their colors have been affected by stats or affection. Pure blooded red chocobos produce red babies. The ONLY yellow chik ive gotten out of colored parents was from a Blue male with a yellow grandmother! Saddly, all of my day to day records are on paper and thus far ive been too lazy to transfer them online. So this latest batch ive started tracking all day to day care and changes @ http://nkai-moonwatyr.livejournal.com/ . I've raised well over 20 chocobos http://www.moonwatyr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=539&start=0 if anyone has any questions on stats atany given day, PM me and i'll be more than happy to send you the info. --Nkai 19:45, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I HAVE PROOF HERE THAT URAT's THEORY IS WRONG! You can check it out on my blog. --Curjos 21:27, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Curjos -- Urat is well known across multiple sites and forums, for posting information that is often detailed and authentic-looking but mixes facts with spurious suppositions. Any information from him should be regarded skeptically, and I consider him to be a particularly subtle type of troll. --FFXI-Guppy 16:15, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Color (UPDATED VERSION AFTER THE RAISING UPDATE)

• CHOCOBO COLOR IS NOT INHERITED
• Color is determined by the stats a Chocobo has right before entering the adolescent stage. Testing is still going as to what stats affect what color, but here is what I have so far...
• Red: Requires lv 4 affection. At least lv 3 strength, or lv 2 end/str. (40% chance)
• Green: Requires lv 5 affection, at least lv 3 end, or lv 2 end/str (50% chance)
• Blue: Requires lv 6 affection, a total of 4 levels in disc, recept, and/or end. (60% chance)
• Black: All we know is that it is rarer than the rest, and requires a substantial amount of affection, and some stats a certain level. We believe it may be just a lv 3 stat, doesn't matter what. (10% chance)

It's actually very easy for me to get black chocobos, and cant seem to get others aside from yellow. I used quested or bought eggs, and having high affection seems to help, and i had zero in all stats. Chocobo Egg (Somewhat Warm) from ISNM 75 does increase your chances of color chocobos--LeonCloud 22:47, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

The % chance refers to the fact that even if you meet all the conditions for the color, there is still a chanc eof yellow. Thus if you have lv 3 recept, lv 3 disc, and lv 6 affection, there is still only a 60% chance that the bird will be green, and a 40% chance it will be yellow. This % goes up by 10% or so with every level of affection above the required you have. thus if you had lv 8, not 6, affection, the %chance would go up from 60%, to 80%. Smart move.

Recessive Colors

As you can see, some combinations of stats give you a chance at multiple colors. How do you know what color it should be? Some colors are Dominant, while others are Recessive.
For example, let's say your bird has lv 2 str, and lv 2 end. That means your bird, if it has high affection the day before its adolescent stage, it could turn out either Blue, Green, or Yellow.
BUT, Green is dominant over Blue, thus if you have lv 5 affection or higher, your bird will not be Blue. So what if you don't want a green bird, but blue looks nice? Simple, note the fact that blue only requires lv 4 affection, while green requires 5. simply abuse your bird down to lv 4 affection, and you will now remove Green form the possible colors, thus giving you the possible colors Blue, or Yellow.

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Leuqarte 15:35, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

Black itself at first was a conundrum, all other colors had some values that attributed to the color, but black was just way out in the middle of nowhere, ranging from level 3 receptivity, to level 2 str/end, to no stats at all. the only contributing factor has appeared to be borderline capped affection.

That is, until we also noted something else. A large percent of black birds had the easygoing trait. Reds tended to gravitate towards stubborn/good for army use. Blues were patient, and so on.

This also explained the rare red bird with, say, level 3 discernment or whatever. The owner would put it through strength training beforehand, giving it the red status, then switch to discernment, thus having a red bird.

It's mostly still theory, but I have lots of information to back it up. Another example to show that stats influence color involves kamp kweh. Using it, you can predict the color of the chick between two birds base don their stats.

I noted this when, after doing kamp kweh about 50 times or so with a friend and I, every time checking mating compatibility, it had been steadily coming up as a red chick. Every. Time.

Now, one day it suddenly changed. the chick was coming up as.... Green? On that exact day, my bird's discernment had hit first-class, surpassing his bird's outstanding strength.

For another 30 or so checks it was steadily green, until he used enough chocotrains to get first-class+ strength (level 9, one level above my discernment now) and lo' and behold, the chick went back to red.

Let's takes a look at the stats in detail...

At first...

My bird>>> F-F-A-B

His>>> A-A-F-F (retired)

Color>>> Red

Then...

Mine>>> F-F-S-B

His>>> A-A-F-F (retired)

color>>> Green!?

Finally...

mine>>> F-F-S-S

His>>> SSS-SS-F-F

Color>>> Red

Now, if mated, at first strength would be the dominant stat, then discernment, then strength again...

hmmmm

--Urat 02:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

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I've been reading the discussion, and decided the best way to find out who is right and who is wrong is to test it and get a proof. I've started writing a blog about the chocobo raising process, so if you're interested, you can check it out here. During the blog I'm going to test out popular myths and see how true they are, starting with this one.

--Curjos 17:28, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm noting an extreme resemblance to my blog, =/

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I'm hoping it's just a mere coincidence, XP

By the way, it says you're on the quetzy server too, you'll have to throw me a tell sometime.

--Urat 00:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

All very interesting conjecture, but you're forgetting one very important piece of evidence: Finbarr himself says that color is inherited, and the honeymoon plans indicate they can weight it in favor of a particular parent. Are you saying Finbarr is a liar and this info was put in the game as a deliberate deception? I find it unlikely, especially considering the long and largely successful history of people breeding chocobos specifically to inherit their colors. --Karl1982 22:19, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Ladykali 00:37, 29 April 2008 (UTC)===Color Theory Testing===

Congratulations to Curjos on your green chocobo. I'm not certain you've falsified the color theory - see the portion of the theory on green being dominant over blue.

I've got a chick a day away from adolescent stage. Its parents are both yellow, raised by me, with one egg from the vendor and the other from Brutus. The mother had blah stats (I naively tried to get a balanced choco) but the father developed outstanding discernment and has burrow and autoregen. The honeymoon egg was 'faintly warm'.

The chick developed a sensitive personality on day 4 and has maintained it (from my reading, this would be a sign of discernment inherited from the father. Note: it did not inherit an ability). I feed the chick 2 Zegham carrots every day. Care plan has been "listen to music" every day. Affection has been maxed since day 2. I walk it and watch over it 2-3 times each per day.

Stats are now: Strength: Poor Endurance: Poor Discernment: A bit deficient Receptivity: Substandard Affection: parent Condition: stable (was high spirits for several days) Personality: quite sensitive, making it good with people Abilities: none Likes clear days

If genes are the determinate factor, I will have a yellow chocobo - unless there is a recessive color gene from a grandparent (and there is no way for us to know). If the color theory has some validity, then I have a decent chance for a color chocobo. I'll let you know how LadyBeauty turns out. (Even if yellow, she will have burrow and bore, and then I'll switch to building her strength and endurance, vomp carrots, etc.)

The best way to test the theory is with third generation yellow chocos, using different techniques for each of several birds being tested (30 would be a good number). Then you are testing an hypothesis, and if any third generation chick becomes colored, you will know that it's not entirely genetic, and have some idea about contributing factors. Right now the theory, as I understand it, is not falsifiable. - Ladykali

Follow-up

Ladybeauty became a yellow adolescent today (grey fringes). All stats were the same as reported for Day 18, except on Day 19, Receptivity went to "A bit deficient", and Zapogo said it has "possibly too much energy!" He also said, "look at that color!" And I did... it's a yellow choco :) Considering the various color theories, this case speaks to the strength of genetic determinates of color, odds/luck notwithstanding. It may be that nurture plays some role in the development of color, but without a gene that would allow one or more non-yellow colors, there is only yellow. I really would like a blue chocobo one day, but a first class yellow digger is something I have the power to develop, and is awfully nice to have :) --Ladykali 04:26, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I am planning on doing mendelian experiments with chocobos to determine if stats or "genetics" determine chocobo color. For this I will need a large number of chocobos from the same parents (if yellow if dominant and the other colors are recessive/co dominant, then there may be a 25% chance of getting a colored chocobo from two yellows). The trick here is to find out which color (if any) is absolutely recessive (there may be two of these). If this can be established, then it can be determined which colors are co-dominant. SE has a habit of patterning game items on real world phenomenon, so this is likely but it will be very time consuming to prove. Anybody on the Unicorn server willing to supply me with chococards for colored chocobos (at maybe 1000 gil ea) would be much appreciated, as would anybody's records of past breedings (just the color of the parents and the grand-parents). My chars are iain, liltie, and anybody. --sdf iain

I added back in the bit to the main page about the tip colors at adolescency to indicate the chocobo's adult color. I don't think that's too controversial and that we can all agree on it? --Lighsovit 18:21, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Also, I was curious what color(s) Urat thinks a chocobo maybe and cannot be, given that the chocobo is just handed over to the trainer, no care plans set and no checking of the chocobos for 20 days. So, no added affection given and strictly the Basic Care package for the 4 days of being an egg, the 16 days of being an adolescent. --Lighsovit 18:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

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Here are the results of my 3 chocos.

• Choco 1: By Day 29 Disc lv 3 Recep lv 3 Affection lv 8 No Abilities Result Green
• Choco 2: By Day 29 Disc lv 3 Recep lv 3 Affection lv 8 No Abilities Result Black
• Choco 3: By Day 29 Disc lv 4 Recep lv 3 Affection lv 8 Gallop Result Red

All in Windurst, All eggs won by ISNM so Somewhat Warm. The only main difference, was i watched over the Egg on the 2nd and 3rd 100+ times before day 4 so Affection started at lv 8, where the first started at lv 6. - Dmhlucky

Small Addition. I reread all the information above and forgot to mention something rather important. NONE of my chocs were trained at ALL for Strength/Endurance until AFTER they had learned their abilities, IE, after their color was set. I think there is another set of guidelines the chocos follow possibly, as i have gotten 3 colors so far, and have Yet to have a choco with Str or End over Poor before Adult Stage. Also, all of my chjocos have been easy going, and all 3 have enlarged beaks as Discermnemt was their primary trait.

If anyone still is compiling date, Please take this into consideration, as this contradicts that is listed above. This is Not made up, if you are on Sylph, i can show you the Plaques and if you can look at my chocos, you will see the stats/abilities they possess. Also, the Green one has treasure finder and Bore (either bore or burrow) And the Red and Black have Gallop and canter. And again, all of my Eggs came from ISNM Happy Caster.

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In support of heritage: I have a black chocobo with capped affection, 2str, 3end. Alright, that fulfills the criteria for green and possibly black. However, my girlfriend's chocobo ended up yellow. Hers is capped affection, 3str, 2end, solidly filling criteria for red, and possibly black. What's more, hers keeps increasing in stats before mine, meaning that on any given day, she's ahead of me.

You know what I think gets you color? Lineage. Possibly mating plans, she used a sports plan for her egg, I used jeuno tour for mine, so maybe she inherited str/end and not color, but stats certainly didn't do the trick here. --ral 19:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, myself I've raised every color there is... and every single card coming from my male red birds have always been born red too. They all had different temperments, likes and dislikes for weather etc. Some liked to carry packages others were had been ill tempered and yet all were red.

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I think color is totally random, once i gave a chocobo egg from a BCNM to chocobo guy and forgot about it, i came back and it was a Black Chocobo, he was grown already. No abilities, the chocobo didn't even know me. I took care of him and now i can ride him. But i did nothing. Exactly the same happened with my first chocobo, was an egg from a BCNM and he was yellow. Both had an "Easy-going personality" -- Arumichan

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Ok, so color is heritable. I have been breeding black and red chocobos and the only results have been black and red. All of these birds were raised using the "watch the egg" trick, then left to their own devices (no further care). It also seems that red is recessive to black. As most of the information presented here seems to be a few months old, I will add pages for specific colors once I have determined the relationship between green and blue. I think one of these will prove to be recessive to the other. The most interesting thing will be to see what happens when red is bred with the other recessive. [chocobo genome project] I really do need a red male to verify things. --iain 19 October 2008

Heritage

.:Carnivor-Asura 14:09, December 1, 2009 (UTC):.
The stat decide color = wrong, fail, and a numerous other words describing the same thing.
i have bred a red chocobo with poor str and endurance throughout the entire care period. i have also bred a two blacks, one digger, one breeder, focusing on dsc/rcp on the breeder, str/end on the runner. all my chocobo's have "regard as parent" from 0-2 days after hatching until i retire it. This theory hold no water at all to me (imagine a twig chair).
At best i could agree to that this theory might be plausible on eggs obtained from anything but chocobo-cards (ISNM or buying/quest). My recent chocobo, a red runner (SS str, avrg end + gallop) i raised with dsc in mind until it learned gallop, then turned to str.
To further this claim, i have sold red chococards for about 1 million worth of gil. not one have turned anything other than red. (and believe me i would have heard it, because i guarantee mine to be red.) Those that say genes has nothing to do with it, have obviously never tried breeding with pure genes (allthough, i do suspect that the 5% failrate is intergrated here too :p).
I also find the issue with the black chocobo to be "fishy" in lack of a better word. with the colors i got, black is by far the easiest one to get. i tried many times getting one of my cross-mating redvsblack to produce a red, to no avail. in the end, i had to get a card for my second red. .:Carnivor-Asura 14:09, December 1, 2009 (UTC):.

Must add some data here. I have a friend who bred a black and blue chocobo but got yellow from it. So it can happen following the heritage theory; not saying it never could before, just noting that there aren't many instances of it posted so I thought someone's actual experience would help. It makes sense that every chocobo carries the gene for yellow no matter what color they are, seeing as that's the color all chocobos originate from, and my friend just got the short end of the stick by getting that small chance of yellow.

Is it possible the chance of getting yellow is lessened if both parents are the same color? Merely a thought. More than likely the parents' origin had something to do with it; possibly if one or both were bred from at least one yellow parent. My own experience was a quested egg with level 2 STR and END, capped affection, easygoing personality, turned out yellow despite my hopes.

Now trying again breeding two blues. Chick is at day 6, but has an "enigmatic" personality. If personality has anything to do with it at all, will be very interesting to see what this brings. I'm almost positive it'll be blue, I lean towards the heritage theories, but again, I'm curious to see if personality influences it at all. Not sure what colors enigmatic would lean towards. --Sunfox 22:19, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

i never said heritage couldnt produce a yellow. its quite possible. Say for example that two reds have 3 red parents and one yellow. that means that one choco would be carrying the yellow gene (or any other color gene for that matter). This could go further than parents parent, and would be a plausible explanation for why sometimes a different color is produced from two equal colored parents..-^Carnivor-Asura 11:39, May 6, 2011 (UTC)^-.

Heritage, personality and stats

I think it's a combination of heritage, personality and stats that determine the color of the chocobo. Personality seems to be ignored by most people, but I get the impression it indicates which aspects of the chocobo should be focussed on to get a colored chocobo matching the personality. Ofcourse, if the parents are both blue, then an offspring doesn't have much chance of becoming red, but mating ill-tempered chocobos would result in a red (or black?) chocobo after a few generations. An ill-tempered chocobo seems to level strength faster, while a patient chocobo levels endurance faster. Enigmatic ties in with green, while easy-going is neutral and raises affection faster. --Seedling 23:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok... I don't really know how all this works.. I just tried for a Red Chocobo. NeoAngel is on day 19 today and he has turned out red. All I did was very minimal and not too time consuming. His mother was yellow (with awful stats) and his father red (Stats unknown). I bought the Gourmet pkg when trading my cards and received a "slightly warm egg". I watched over the egg for about an hour each day until it hatched. Result was male. He has an "easy-going" personality and likes "clear days". I then fed him 1 Sand'Orian Carrot and 2 Sharug greens each day as well as walked him 2wice and watched over him until his energy bar was low. I read all the comments here on my quest for a Red Chocobo and didn't quite know how to go.. maybe the plan I chose to this stage had something to do with it or not I don't really know.. Just thought I would comment on my "experiment". --Taelare 01:03, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Raising past day 64?

My chocobo has been at 7/6/1/1 ever since it recieved the message about it being in the prime of it's life. The wiki page states that it cannot gain stats from care plans past then, so I set it to basic care. I've been taking it on 2 long walks and feeding 3 vomp carrots each day. It is now day 111 and it's stats still haven't changed. According to the page, the carrots alone should be giving 3 points to str and endurance each day, which should be enough to raise the stats every 9 days or so, assuming the comment earlier down about it being 25 points per upgrade is correct. So, what's the deal? Is it possible to raise stats past the prime of it's life at all without using chocobuck upgrades?--Urth 16:28, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Food stat increases are also frozen after day 64. Only kamp kweh and chocotrains raise stats so far as I know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Urat (talk • contribs).

My chocobo is now on day 107 with stats 8/8/4/1 on day 64 it was something like 8/8/2/1. Since I wanted her to learn canter I tried to raise its discernment up to 4. What I did was: feed it 3 zegham a day (or medicine if needed), Chocotrain: Discernment upgrades, tell stories for canter and sometimes long walks/looking after to keep affection up. Increase for discernment was really slow even with chocotrains (got it to 4 on day 95~100), receptivity stayed poor. Now this might look like food doesn't do anything after 64, but shortly before her discernment got up to 4, her endurance fell to 7. after that I gave her 2 vomp 1 zegham (do hope that the increase is higher than the decrease). So I think that Carrots increases one type of stat and decreases the other type at the same time and since it was about day 90, it works even after passing prime of life. Either that or something else decreases endurance...maybe telling it stories? I'm not feeding her anything now, but thinking about feeding gregarious worms and sandy carrots. Risa 16:36, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

It's not impossible to raise stats past Day64 but it might as well be as its extremely difficult without using chocotrains or Kamp Kweh. I'm guessing (from personal experience) that the effects of foods goes down quite a bit past this point, and Care Plan effects go down to 0. --Nkai 19:33, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

!! On day 69 my Chocobo's Strength went from Above Average to Impressive. !! I haven't fed him vomp carrots in ages, only Gyasahl and Sharug Greens to cater to his affection. Care plans on day 65/66 were Exercise with Others, and afterwards, Basic Care. I went on a long walk with him every day after day 64. Perhaps walking did it? I had a hard enough time getting my current amount of Chocobucks (14 /wrist), so no Chocotrains were involved either. Alraunne 19:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Kamp Kweh

I updated the message about Kamp Kweh in the article, as from tons of experience doing it with my LS friends, the chance of getting a stat boost is certainly not what I'd call 'high'. It does, however, seem to be more likely to occur if your chocobo has higher Receptivity (which makes sense, since Receptivity's in-game description mentions it being for how well your chocobo deals with other chocobos). Sometimes we'd get stat boosts a couple days in a row, but sometimes we'd go for like 2 weeks without a single boost. And it is completely independent for each chocobo; your chocobo may get a boost, while the other person's chocobo gets nothing, and vice versa. --Kyrie 23:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Care plan numbers and feed details

Does anyone know where the stats on the care plan table came from? In particular, I'm curious about the "+5%" for "Exercising alone", "Exercising in a group", "Interact with children", and "Interact with chocobos." If this number is correct, then these care plans would be wonderful to boost stats that are already very high. By my own estimates, if I'm getting +5 on strength and endurance from "Carrying packages" and +3 to both stats from feeding 3 Vomp Carrots each day, then those stats accumulate 32 to 40 points before they go up a level (every 4-5 days). By the time, they reach "Outstanding", those stats should have 192 to 240 points. A stat boost of "+5%" would yield a daily increase (excluding Vomp Carrots) of +9 to +12 at that rank, and would go higher with each new rank. (The numbers go higher if you consider that high affection also boosts status increases.) That's significantly better than the stat boosts gained from "Delivering messages" (+8). However, I don't want to waste my time on these care plans if this isn't right. So does anyone have any more details on this?

Also, the pages claim that Vomp Carrots boost strength and endurance by 1 point each while Zegham Carrots boost discernment and receptivity by 1 point each. However, the Chocobo Raising Guide says, "mixing Vomp Carrots & Zegham Carrots have negative and contradictory effects." What does that mean, exactly? Do these carrots also decrease other stats? Once I cap strength and endurance, is it safe to switch over to Zegham Carrots without hurting the stats I've spent weeks raising? - Visionholder 19:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I have very high doubts about the posted values, especially for Interacting with Children/Chocobos and Exercising Alone/Group. My personal experiences right now are telling me that x5% is very far from correct. I have 200+ points in DSC and RCP and are receiving very poor bonuses from these plans compared to Exhibiting. I'm also curious where these values come from. --Pahya Remora 22:11, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

About teh blackness

So far ive met 2 people both with black chocobos, both however seemt o have just been left to grow, no affeftion, no stat gains, nothing, maybe black chocobos have more to do with neglect than actual care? just a suggestion, but ima try it for my next chocobo, and shall let y'all know ;) <3

Dyeing Chocobos

I have a retired chocobo, which I dyed blue after earning the chocobucks from chocobo racing. It is still dyed blue today, over a year and dozens of whistle recharges later. The dye does not go away when you recharge your whistle. Tahngarthor^{talk-contribs} 02:15, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

"Color (UPDATED VERSION AFTER THE RAISING UPDATE) CHOCOBO COLOR IS NOT INHERITED Color is determined by the stats a Chocobo has right before entering the adolescent stage. Testing is still going as to what stats affect what color, but here is what I have so far... Red: Requires lv 4 affection. At least lv 3 strength, or lv 2 end/str. (40% chance) Green: Requires lv 5 affection, at least lv 3 end, or lv 2 end/str (50% chance) Blue: Requires lv 6 affection, a total of 4 levels in disc, recept, and/or end. (60% chance) Black: All we know is that it is rarer than the rest, and requires a substantial amount of affection, and some stats a certain level. We believe it may be just a lv 3 stat, doesn't matter what. (10% chance) It's actually very easy for me to get black chocobos, and cant seem to get others aside from yellow. I used quested or bought eggs, and having high affection seems to help, and i had zero in all stats. Chocobo Egg (Somewhat Warm) from ISNM 75 does increase your chances of color chocobos--"

i am on my tenth choco. tenth yellow choco. i have been raising them since the first update and color change.i have had choco's hate me (no black) love me (no red) indefferent to me (no green or blue).. so far i have raised auto regen gallup canter and a few combinations of those afor mentioned attributes..every one of my choco's thus far have been yellow ive got a few pure blood color eggs left and a few mixed color eggs but so far all i am able to raise are racers that are yellow i intend to raise a digger to see if that makes a difference in color .

Cap of 637 Points

How is it possible to have a cap of 637, while theres an NPC chocobo with stats of SS-S-C-B? This according to the information on the page, those stats totals to a minimum of 640. --Lord0din69 00:17, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Your forgetting the saddle's. The picture is from Chocobo Racing and as such you can increase your stats based on what saddle you have equipped. You can reference this place for information about saddle stats Talk:Chocobo Racing Guide. Overall it could be possible to be at the minimum of SS close to max END at 189 (A) and lowest on the C and B stat. The saddle would only need to give 2 points to endurance and it would be a S rank. There are also racing items that "slightly increase" the stats of your bird during a race, this too could be the 2 needed points to give a stat higher then that normally allowed in the stables. Divimise 17:52, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Where you raise your chocbo

I'd like someone to investigate choboc's raised in different places, I have raised 5 chocobo's, and helped others raise their own, all with varying stats and all bred differently. I can definately confirm that your chocobo's stats do not have anything to do with the colour your chocobo will become. On another note, breeding 2 cards of the same colour has no effect on the outcome of the new chocobo.

In total, I have seen 8 chocbo's reach adulthood, 1 of these was Black, the other 7 turned out to be Yellow (my 5 were yellow). Of these 8 chocobo's the first 3 did not have any stat above poor Substandard before day 19, my last 2 chocobo's had average STR and END before day 19, affection for my 4th was lvl 7 and the 5th was lvl 8. No effect on colour what-so-ever (The cards traded for my 5th were both Red cards).

The other 3 chocob's that I have helped raised were a little different, as my friend wanted them for digging. The 1st was a complete failure, it had Substandard RCP by day 19, lvl3 affection and it was yellow. The 2nd had both attributes at A Bit Deficient by day 19, affection lvl 8, this turned out to be yellow. The 3rd attempt, was as the 2nd, day 19 it had A bit deficient Dicernemnt and Receptivity, lvl 8 affection, yet it turned out black (I can confirm for the 3rd digger, the cards used to breed the egg were blue and black).

So the proof is right there that stats have nothing to do with colour, and it also places doubt on the cards used to breed the new egg. But what about the stable where you chick is raised? Will it make a difference? The reason for my thinking is that I have seen Black chocobo's ridden by all nationaliies, Red chocobo's have been ridden by people from San d'Oria, Blue from people who reside in Bastok, and Green is very common from those in Windurst. This also points to the breed of the chocobo, and would very much coincide with the nations colours.

Could we have been wasting our time looking at stats, egg warmths, and parents when the answer looks to be as simple as nationality? all the previous chocbo's that I have raised or helped to raise were intended to be Black or Red, the colours we have recieved after raising 8 where either Yellow or Black, and I have met 1 other breeder who has raised Blue chocobo's in Bastok. Give us your results, and let us know where your chocob was bred, maybe we will find the answer to colours after all :)

Alixander (aka "Musahashi" Lakshmi)

I have not looked into that theory. I raised all of my choco's in Sandy I have had 3 red 1 blue and 1 green. I have used the heritage theory to gain my colors. Although when i mated my blue and red i ended up with the green. Which kind of blew my mind. Zigerus 15:05, July 16, 2011 (UTC)