Please delete this page. The information has been copied/merged to Category:Campaign:_Special_Ops.

Campaign:_Special_Ops is currently on the quest page but with no info. There is now 3 pages for the same thing. --Lito 04:06, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

All of Campaign, including the missions and the battles, should probably be under its own category like Salvage, and then redirected. Probably needs a general rundown of Campaign and all the trackers, like the maps and the medals. Then the Ops and the Battles and whatever else Campaign has to offer. It seems like it will be a huge job to sort through. It probably needs a Quick Link in the sidebar. --Meara 00:45, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree, the this page should focus more on the specifics of how Campaign works. There is also the non-category page that could be used as the start for that. Right now, this page is just redundant and does not contain the information that the other campaign special ops page contains. --Yajirobe 16:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Fixed --GAHOO t/ c 14:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

"A new medal can be earned after a period of five real time days (according to JP Midnight)." I don't think this is exactly true, as last night the NPC told me I could get another evaluation in 1 day, and then this morning after JP midnight, he still was saying I could get one in 1 day. I'm guessing it recharges at the same time as your Op Credits do (which for me is ~6.5 hours after JP midnight; I think it is based on when you first got your Bronze Ribbon of Service), but I don't know for certain. --Kyrie 16:51, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I wrote down the date and time I recieved my first medal in order to get the next as soon as possible. It was at 8:30pm. I tried five days later at 8:30pm and it asked me for another day. I tried again just past JP midnight the following day (which is 11am my time) and was able to get the rank up. Perhaps this does co-incide with Ops credits, but that doesn't make much sense since there are several parts to Campaign, not just Ops. I'll time it again and see what happens the next medal.--Meara 22:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

It seems to be 24 hours RL time per Ops Credit and 120 hours (24x5) per evaluation. At about 2:30 AM CST on 1/16, I had used my last Ops Credit and about the same time on 1/17, I was able to do a new Op. Similarly, I had received my last promotion around 1:30AM on 1/12 and after this morning's Op at ~2:30AM, I was able to receive my promotion. It doesn't seem to be very precise, though... It may be that it may be keeping track of RL time in relation to Vana'Diel time, so instead of 24 hours, it's 24 Vana'Diel days. It'd be a small difference, but enough to throw things off a little. -- Tesseract 02:04, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Assessment Verification Please

It currently says that if you ask for an evaluation, but are not qualified for next level, you lose all progress towards that level and have to start over. That just doesn't make logical sense to me. How will you know if you advanced if you keep restarting over at zero just for asking? Can someone either clarify or verify this statement please. --FFXI-Mierin Talk / Contrib 08:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

There are 2 routes you can go with an eval if you don't qualify for a rank up. If you choose to keep your current rank and just want to reset the timer to 30 days, you will lose all your progress toward your next rank. I think when you are asked the second time if you are sure you want to do this and you say no, you will keep your existing progress toward the next rank and try an evaluation again later. I don't remember exactly how the conversation goes, but I know when I was asked if I was sure, I said no and was able to do a few more things and they try my eval again. Poomba 19:33, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

There seems to be a slight discrepancy on the page here. It says you need a certain amount of Allied Notes to get the next rank up, but it also says you require exactly 5000xp from campaign battles. So... do you need xp or notes and if notes is the more prominent measure of ranking up, how many notes are required for rank up? Reiryuu 13:19, 6 January 2008 (UTC)Reiryuu

Allied Notes Per Rank

It is noted that to progress to the next medal all that is need is a set number of Allied Notes, However i think this is not the case. I always do Campaign battles in Jugner Forest (S) when it is time for my assessment it states that i am unable to progress to the next level. So i go to the Vunkerl Inlet (S) do only one battle and go back for my assessment then get the next level . Sorry if this is in the wrong area. Abydos1104 20:34, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

The *note*s on the main article was speculative, I removed them from there, but here are the contents for reference:

Note: It takes exactly 5000 experience points to earn a new promotion through campaign battles (I tested this by getting the exp and asking the evalution npc after each battle) although I did die almost every battle (cutting allied notes to be half of the exp I acquired), so if its based on notes the promotion would be somewhere around 2000-2500notes. Based on the note below it would also seem there is a penalty for being inactive for a number of days and the points required for promotion increase daily. (I wouldn't know this since I get mine immediately after 5 days) sorry for the confusion everyone.
Note to the note: It took around 23k Limits through campaign battle to be allowed to rank up after 27 days of inactivity on FF. I was checking every 2k for a rank up.

I also added some info concerning "failed" evaluations and the options presented to you on the main article. Leuqarte 22:12, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Is this an appropriate place to keep track of exp/allied notes per medal? I can verify that the 5k per level is incorrect, but may be accurate at the lower levels.
I just got evaluated for three characters.

  • One got promoted for Star §§§§ after about 7k exp.
  • One was even for Emblem §§§ I believe after 8.6k.
  • One was even for Emblem §§§§ after about 7.9k.

--Claquesous 14:22, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

The formula isn't that simple. I had one night where the evaluation said they were pleased, I logged off, and talked to the NPC again the next day when I logged in and they were unsatisfied again. So, your efforts must fade with time. Poodlehat 02:42, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I am looking for a promotion from Star § to Star §§ and I had collected 5500ish notes. I went for an evaluation as soon as I could but was not awarded the medal. I did Streetsweeper II again and now have >6k and that is still not good enough. Most of my AN this period have been gathered through Campaign Ops rather than Battles. I don't see why that should make a difference though ---- dibble 08:01, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

It appears to me that Campaign Battles are weighed much higher than Ops, and I don't doubt that effort "decays" over time. The formula obviously isn't as simple as "get X Allied Notes for rank up". From the main article, I've removed the section of the table with that infomation. We should continue to discuss it here, because I'm sure that someone will come up with a genius research method to determine the real formula for ranks up. --Leuqarte 23:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I've verified that effort indeed decays over time. I will add this to the main article. (Decayed from neutral to displeased in one day, one Op brought it back up to neutral) --Leuqarte 05:19, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I realize I'm bringing up a rather old subject here, but I'm not certain that the effort decays over time, so much as the effort required increases over time -- perhaps an average per day or something. I haven't conducted any real study on this; however, during my last evaluation period, I had done no campaign until day 19 and it required considerable effort to rank up. It took 3-4 battles to bring myself up to a neutral status on my evaluation, and then I was stuck in the 'neutral' evaluation period for a time spanning 5-6 fair-sized battles. On my next campaign rank, I started campaigning from Day 5 and after 2 battles, I was still in 'unsatisfactory performance' stage. I then went from a 'unsatisfactory' rating to 'promotion' in a single campaign battle that netted 2k AN and EXP (capped EXP) -- It seemed like significantly less effort than I had put forward in the previous rank. I know better than to simply trust my eyes on something like this, but I wanted to see if anyone had noted anything similar. Calessa 16:41, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Campaign Statistics

When I added the "Campaign Statistics" section to the article, the premise was to have a summary of the information Maruna-Kurina provides, not a word-for-word transcribe of what is on his own article. A lot of the information isn't given out directly when you talk to him about a given subject, instead related subjects usually give more information on it, so I wrote up the summaries as an easier to read version. Is there a reason why the summary was replaced with Maruna's actual text? If not, I'll go and put my summaries back up. --Urth 21:30, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Campaign Statistics

Who designed the Campaign Statistics section, it's a series of boxes that opens another series of boxes to click on to find the actual information. It looks ugly and seems very inefficient just to get a few lines of information. --Sabishii 04:28, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


There needs to be a section about what they actually affect -- which I don't know, so I can't really add it myself. :( «Nuilvian Talk/Contribs» 19:40, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Capturing Strongholds

There isn't a lot of information out there other than to kill the Beastmen when there isn't a battle going. But I have discovered something that I haven't seen mentioned before. If you attempt to camp a stronghold like Castrole Oztroza (S) and kill whatever Beastmen forces show up, if the allied forces are losing in other regions, eventually when the Beastmen bar reaches about 55%, the Beastmen simply stop coming. Apparently the allied armies have to come in and attack to push the balance past 50%. --Elwynn (talk) 09:25, February 16, 2014 (UTC)

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