User talk:Beaux/Archive July 10, 2007

Recent Edit
Please verify your claim on a discussion page before making such a revision as previous edits have claimed the item dropping from Ro'Maeve to be incorrect. Thanks for your understanding. --Charitwo 16:22, 14 March 2007 (EDT)


 * You need to back it up, you cannot simply expect me to believe that a mob not even in the Tu'Lia region drops this item. If you can provide a source, you're more than welcome to change it back. Otherwise keep hearsay on the discussion page. --Charitwo 16:31, 14 March 2007 (EDT)


 * You are making changes without verifying your information. How can you ask others to not do it when you are doing it.
 * If you haven't seen the item drop then that means you don't know and thus shouldn't be making any edits.


 * I'm asking you not to change it again without verifying the info. Which is why I reverted it after previous edits have proved it to be incorrect. Also, when making comments on talk pages, ensure you sign your posts with --~ . Thanks. --Charitwo 16:39, 14 March 2007 (EDT)


 * I don't see this proof you speak of. You're changing things without verifying the info. You should stop.


 * See my discussion at this talk page if you want further discussion, as I won't be addressing this issue any longer here. Also, you need to sign your posts with --~ . --Charitwo 16:54, 14 March 2007 (EDT)

1. Please do not start edit wars. An edit war is when parties revert back and forth other people's edits. Please take it to the Talk page. You never did that. If you continue to initiate edit wars, you will be banned. 2. The original poster of the Darksteel Golem material (the person that assert such in the first place) reverted his *own* edit. You then added back in after he admitted he was wrong. Charitwo, corrected it back to what the original poster did. Thus, *you* needed to verify the claim. What was your reason for doing so? Other than that article, do you believe they drop there? If so, please state your argument on the talk page. Unless information any information is added to substantiate the Darksteel Golem drop, even with a Verification tag, the page shall remain with it off. There hasn't even been hearsay put forth as proof.

--Mierin 15:49, 15 March 2007 (EDT)


 * Contrary to your belief, you did start the edit war. On March 12, Tulia made an edit adding Ro'maeve as an additional spot for the Diorite drop.  After some minor changes, he removed the edit on March 14, specifically stating that his source lied about the drop.


 * Then on March 14, contrary to Tulia's statement, you added the Ro'maeve drop back in. Charitwo, recognizing that it did not drop, removed your edit.  Then you proceeded to add it back in, over and over again, not once did you attempt to take it to the Talk page.  An edit war is considered to have started when someone adds something in a second time.  The first edit and first removal may be considered innocent mistakes, especially considering Charitwo was most likely relying on Tulia's statements.


 * The second edit is deliberate. You should have taken it immediately to the talk page.  You should have started a subheading discussing the drop, asking why Charitwo removed it, and providing your proof that it drops in Ro'maeve.  Instead, you decided to constantly place information back into the wiki and maintain an edit war with Charitwo.


 * Do not think we only blame you. We recognize edit wars have two sides, and we have discussed this already with Charitwo, and he has apologized and promised not to do this again in the future.  But do not think you are blameless.  We do not permit edit wars on the wiki, and will temporarily ban accounts that persist in using edit wars as a method of dispute resolution.  Move your disagreements to the Talk page.  --Mierin 09:40, 26 March 2007 (EDT)


 * You changed your definition just so you could justify your accusation. --Beaux 13:40, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

Mierin is an Administrator here, his reasons and explanations are his own. If you want to get ahold of him, please use his talk page. --Charitwo 13:43, 29 March 2007 (EDT)


 * I did. --Beaux 13:49, 29 March 2007 (EDT)


 * I hit submit after you made the addition to his talk page without noticing, carry on. --Charitwo 13:51, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

I hate people that argue semantics. They pick one word out of a statement and argue its incorrectness. I don't care who "started" the edit war. I've lectured BOTH of you. I don't care if you're the first, second or tenth person in the edit war. You are ALL wrong. Don't sit here and cry because you don't believe you were the "first." The point is, you were part of it, and at no point did you man up and take it to the talk page. Instead, you were a willing participant in an edit war. So don't cry to me about not being the "first," or that I'm "accusing" you of being the first. The point of my statement was: you participated in an edit war. For that you can be banned. So please stop arguing semantics with me about who started what and when. --Mierin 13:58, 29 March 2007 (EDT)


 * Thank you. --Mierin 14:14, 29 March 2007 (EDT)