User talk:Karuberu

Transparent Element Icons
Thanks for uploading those! I was secretly hoping someone would do that. :) --Ichthyos 11:16, 14 August 2006 (EDT)

No problem, I always disliked the non-transparent ones, lol. ~ Karuberu 11:26, 14 August 2006 (EDT)

Mind if I use the icons in a little Vana'diel clock I'm creating? ~ Niyopiyo 21:53 9 November 2006 (EST)

Sure, go right ahead. ~ Karuberu 22:03, 9 November 2006 (EST)

Response Time
Okay, I wanted to respond to what you said, but didnt want to do it on the AfD anymore seeing is its really got nothing to do w/ the actual AfD - on #2 - In response to my inactions on that discussion after it started - I am not on here as much as I used to be and don't have the time due to my work schedule to look everything over as often as I used to - I sometimes miss some things - the discussion on the talk food page was sort of put in the background for me - I saw where you were coming from at first but really didnt want categories so I wanted to still take time and think it over and see what could be done - and my decision is as you see above due to the fact that I recalled the past discussion held and also the relative uselessness of categorizing them when we could have tables such as the one User:Washuotaku has placed in. It took me relatively this long to come to that conclusion seeing as he had just added said tables and due to the fact that I didn't see it as important seeing as we already have pages for all the auction house stuff - that if I didnt post right away the world wasn't going to end... But that is just me... Its nothing against you - it just took me this long to respond and have the time - its when problems arise like this that I am forced to decide where I stand (subsequently usually making me cranky). Didnt mean to jump down your throat, apparently I misunderstood what you were trying to say. --Nynaeve 01:10, 29 January 2007 (EST)

Later
I am heading out - Just wanted to say take tare to you and good luck with everything. You had some good ideas and some bad and just because I didn't agree with you or seemed harsh - didn't mean that I had anything personally against you. Good Luck w/ Everything and thank you for not attacking me too when I know the old you would have. Peace. --Nynaeve 19:49, 24 February 2007 (EST)

Food categories
Don't forget HQ foods need the category too. --Gahoo 23:03, 26 February 2007 (EST)

Furniture
See Moghancement and Star Globe as an example. --Gahoo 09:37, 14 March 2007 (EDT)

I think, because this isn't in use much, I'm going to change it around to be a little more intuitive to use. I'll keep you posted, since you seem to be keeping track of it. --Chrisjander 19:45, 3 April 2007 (EDT)

It works, check out the template now. The noinclude section at the bottom has a cut and paste to get it to work nice and easy. --Chrisjander 19:56, 3 April 2007 (EDT)

NPC Selling
I think it needs to be worded differently because "NPC Sell Price: Cannot be sold!" sounds less redundant than "NPC Sell Price: Cannot be sold to NPCs" --Charitwo 16:00, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Actually, I referenced several similar items, and the standard seems to be "Not Sellable". --Charitwo 18:09, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

It doesn't matter, so long as the fact that it can't be sold is displayed. My preference is still "Cannot be sold to NPCs", because in the absence of any other explanation, this makes it readily clear what "NPC Sell Price" means (We still haven't found an alternate short phrase that's succinct enough for that). --Chrisjander 18:14, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

AH
Gahoo and I discussed that. What were you thinking of for suggestions for it? --Chrisjander 00:10, 4 April 2007 (EDT)


 * There were two things here. The "AH Nav Box" is the box that is on, for example, the category:Swords page at the top left.  It is not a true wiki template of course.  The AH template is new, and not implemented and is being discussed.  Also, while we are on the subject of templates - the moghancement template is created and should be implemented.  These templates do us no good unless they are utilized. --Gahoo 09:36, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

I think we've nigh perfected the AH tempate. I've heard nothing negative back from the other admins, so lets go ahead and implement that. -- 17:42, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I'll most likely get to that sometime today. -- 17:57, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Found a slight problem. For items that are throwing weapons (the ranged variety), we really want to redirect to category:throwing instead of ranged. Basically, we need an #if that if the second argument is "Throwing", it links to Throwing (will will take you to the category), but the link appears as "Ranged". -- 02:26, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

Fair enough, we can leave it. -- 13:39, 2 June 2007 (CDT)


 * See Template talk:AH -- 18:34, 17 June 2007 (CDT)

Most of the pages that utilize the template should already use & Misc. was there something I missed? None of the articles are appearing in the new category. -- 12:12, 19 September 2007 (EDT)

Attestation of Sacrifice
It turns out the article for this attestation that you marked improperly formatted had a duplicate article, now deleted, that was properly formatted. Go figure. Anyway, the proper formatting has been applied to each attestation and the Attestations page corrected. --Charitwo 13:08, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

Item Pages
Per your recent edit to Suirin Obi, please reference the Item Template for how to correctly format the slot section of statistics. It's set off parenthetically not with brackets. --Charitwo 08:07, 7 May 2007 (CDT)

For your reference --Charitwo 19:47, 7 May 2007 (CDT)

More Reference --Charitwo 13:50, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

I'm formatting the pages as I come across them to display them as they are in-game, some have All Races next to the type of item with no space while others do not. As I come across them I format them as such. -- 23:28, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

It's one of those OCD things, it really bothers me. Along with the unnecessary line breaks after the job information. -- 18:36, 7 August 2007 (CDT)
 * That and I figured out today, I thought people were doing it intentionally with the reasoning you gave, but when you edit by section, it automatically inserts a blank line at the bottom. Whether you want it to or not. -- 18:42, 7 August 2007 (CDT)

I was talking with Gani over AIM when it was happening, I shared the same concerns you did to an extent. Although it didn't cause any harm, there is always the possibility. It is very inconsistent though, he had to run 3 different queries just to get "everything" and there is still stuff missed. I do agree there should be a policy, it's hard to patrol against a bot, I'm still going over his edits. 5000+ edits in under 2 weeks is something to sneeze at. -- 07:58, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

Take note with Other Uses sections that only contain 0-1 quests. The usage is singular. (Used in Quest:) -- 22:13, 30 August 2007 (CDT)

Not Sellable is finished. -- 13:56, 1 September 2007 (CDT)

Before -> After -- 03:11, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

CSS
I'm a web developer. I'm very familiar with CSS. Creating CSS for everyone to use is on the list of things to do, just not at the top. We'll get around to, most likely after we upgrade Mediawiki -- 18:35, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

Parser functions should already be there - I added them so feel free to experiment. Things like #if "should" be working -- 15:48, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Special:Version will show you what's installed - Parser hooks are there -- 15:49, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

Ampersand
Thank you, I hate trying to get to those pages. They are now deleted. -- 23:38, 26 May 2007 (CDT)

Standardization
lol... when the effect is listed on a quarter of the pages and all with different formats, what exactly am i supposed to do? don't make the drake ring your favorite though, i did all of the level 30 and 70 HP latent rings. surely you see this just as well as i did. why fix one and not the others? o.Oa --Eleri 09:25, 27 May 2007 (CDT)

Vandalism
Fuxionx appears to be updating the items based on today's update. They may still need to be tweaked, but it is not vandalism. -- 15:58, 5 June 2007 (CDT)

Max NPC Sell Price?
Originally, I had assumed that my sell prices would always be the highest possible to NPCs in Windurst since I have maximum reputation there. However, there are some items I have come across (specific examples escape me, but I think they were items with higher sell ranges) where the maximum price listed on the wiki was actually higher than my sell price. This is why I haven't been setting price maximums to this point, like your example on the Sleepshroom page, and instead leaving in the variable price indicator (???~???). I'm guessing this means that Level 9 Reputation is still a range of values, sort of like First-Class chocobo stats, and I'm not quite maxed out; this only becomes apparent when the item sells for enough gil.

Should I start using that maximum formatting on pages I add new prices to? I'm really trying not to annoy other editors with my contributions. ^^; --Tinuvael 12:23, 6 June 2007 (CDT)

If you absolutely know the hard max price, use the "-". I still think we should keep the "~" before the min though. -- 18:20, 6 June 2007 (CDT)

I think it's more of a thing more experienced editors do. We can just let new users just enter values as they find them. No need to make it more complex for them. We can be the punctuation police. -- 18:43, 6 June 2007 (CDT)

Comments
Regardless of whether you changed your mind on how you wanted something worded, it is against policy to alter or remove other users comments unless it has to do with formatting or consistency (i.e. broken links or forgetting to put a colon to prevent an accidental inclusion of a category or the display of an oversized image. -- 16:42, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

Eh, most of the time it's my anal-retentive side, no worries. -- 23:15, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

Book titles
I honestly don't care if that part of the item is capitalized. I believe we mainly kept it capitalized because of people who'd leave it lower case, then makes links, and then make new pages with lower case titles. It was a preventative thing. But know, I really don't care if it's lowercase (it probably should be), and so long as the links work fine, I'm okay with that. -- 15:04, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

Re: Item Names/Effects/Stats
I'd prefer emulating the game's format, too. I had been under the impression that Chrisjander wanted all words capitalized save for a few situations (I probably should have gone into more detail with him). I'll change what I've done later. Thanks for leaving the note! --Ksayyah 18:16, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

Template Requests
See the Requests page per your template request. -- 15:49, 30 June 2007 (CDT)


 * As far as a new category or something of that nature, that needs a discussion brought up with the admins. If you want, you can take the existing editing guide, paste it into a sandbox, and work with it and see what you can do to expand on it. -- 23:20, 30 June 2007 (CDT)

Editing Guide
I suggest you read the editing guide before making changes like that. Thank you for understanding. -- 18:09, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

Heads up - The Templates are used for coloring purposes everywhere on the site. They are not and never have been designed solely for the purpose of crystal colors or elements. They were designed to aid in the use of such, but not the sole purpose. For example, the Main Page uses the Fire Template and the Water Template to emphasize and color certain things. I doubt they would ever, ever think of putting the lil picture icon next to that because of the various and I mean various (Please see What Links Here under Template Fire for an example) other pages that this is used on. Hope this tidbit helps you understand. --Nynaeve 18:26, 10 July 2007 (CDT)


 * : ( I Dunno. Have you seen my guide... I like the use of the templates for what they are - I find them a convenient way to bold and color something at the same time... I mean they are used for crystal in synthesis - wouldn't really want an icon next to those really and next to NMs... and like everything. They are just everywhere because they are super great. I wish there were more color templates to be honest, but I don't see a practical purpose other than I don't like having to go to the color table to find and add new colors. But I do see a practical purpose for keeping the crystal colors as they are and not altering them for any reason. Thats me though. I am pretty sure others feel the same way. ^^ --Nynaeve 18:51, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

You do realize who you're talking to right? It doesn't hurt anything and I'm too lazy to change my clipboard for each and every page. You need to assume good faith when making edits, make the change and move on. You do not need to remind me of anything, I know exactly what's on that guide. Thanks for your understanding. -- 15:29, 14 July 2007 (CDT)

It's not damaging anything, I suggest you leave me alone. It's not wise to harass other editors. Make the change and move on. That's it. -- 15:43, 14 July 2007 (CDT)


 * Regarding the changes made to Item Pages that are not craftable: After talking with CJ, I made the decision to go through the past 500 of Charitwo's edits and took it upon myself to follow standard Item Template editing Procedures (that I know that you are obviously aware of seeing as you pointed it to the above user) and removed the Line regarding Guild Point Value on Items that are non-craftable. I didn't go through all of his edits seeing as I do not have the time, but know you are right and anything non-synthesized would, of course, not have a Guild Point Value and therefor would need to have that Line removed if you find it on any page and any new pages made would follow the format we have been using since we made the template. Thank you for pointing this out though, I am sure that the above editor did not realize this and was just editing according to the template as he knew it. No hard feelings - no harm no foul. ^^ -- 12:47, 15 July 2007 (CDT)


 * I am sure he just didn't realize. I know you know because we pretty much drilled alot of stuff into your head :P but sometimes other people don't remember the little things like that because they have never tried it before and been reminded. But yeah. Either way. Synthesized Items only - its been like that forever - I still remember the time that CJ had to remind me about that so no one is perfect. ^^ -- 16:46, 15 July 2007 (CDT)

Colors
I saw it, you make a point, but everyone is entitled to ideas. I posted what I felt like I should say already. -- 19:23, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

Light Discussion -- 22:13, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

Whatever you just did to the quest templates needs to be adjusted, all those look like broken links and shouldn't. -- 19:41, 20 July 2007 (CDT)

They aren't really broken, but they look that way, the text should not be red. -- 19:51, 20 July 2007 (CDT)

Before After

-- 20:03, 20 July 2007 (CDT)

Normally I use Firefox, but I'm not at home right now. The computer I'm using belongs to the government and has download restrictions, so it's IE only til next Saturday. But that shouldn't matter, it should appear the same for all, if not most, browsers. -- 20:17, 20 July 2007 (CDT)

I tried something with the San d'Oria one. I checked Toxic's page and it appears fine. Take a look. -- 20:31, 20 July 2007 (CDT)

I added Water and Fire back into the Template but not the usage, the removal of water and fire broke the Main Page color scheme. Please do not remove them. -- 21:21, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

"Draft" Templates
It is fine to make a template for discussion purposes only. -- 22:31, 15 July 2007 (CDT)

Salvage Armor
Thanks for the updated table, I'll change it to the version you put on my talk page. That is quite a bit cleaner hehe ^_^ -- 17:37, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

Favourite Greens
Is it an item or is it not? If it is, it needs to be created. If not it doesn't need to be in brackets, neither single or double. -- 18:48, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Ose
Excess killable by is unnecessary, for an NM of this level setups/numbers of players for 70 and 75 players is sufficient. But I completely disagree on the placeholder change. -- 19:54, 23 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Normally, excess party/strat/setup information is placed on the talk page, to avoid clutter. Mainly because it intensifies as people keep adding and adding and adding, etc. -- 20:09, 23 July 2007 (CDT)
 * See Talk:Ose, there should be a discussion if there is a widely based opinion on the placeholder section. -- 20:17, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

Quest Log
I shall shortly be deleted an old redirect or two, and wanted to inform you so you could fix your Quest Log. You should change your Eco-Warrior links from "Eco-Warrior:Nation" to "Eco-Warrior (Nation)". -- 10:51, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

Formatting
Yeah, I know about the Guild Points Value without any parameters... I'm honestly still a crafting noob (highest craft 35), and I'm not sure when to put down whether or not if an item can be turned in for Guild Points. At least, that's what it seems like. Is there indeed a pattern? >< Show me please! Thanks! 17:13, 3 August 2007 (CDT)

Do not format pages out of compliance with the Item Template, I will revert them. Thanks. -- 18:51, 9 September 2007 (CDT)

Have fun with that. ~ Karuberu 18:56, 9 September 2007 (CDT)

If you don't stop, I'm going to Gahoo, you will comply with the Item Template. Do not take things upon yourself and make changes it was never agreed upon to change. -- 19:05, 9 September 2007 (CDT)

Maps
You may be interest in the new Map Checklist, a template to track map acquisition. Using this template will be beneficial when WoTG comes out and new maps are available. -- 15:10, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

Apology
I want to apologize for my tone, I shouldn't have acted that way and you have a right to your opinion as well as anyone else. -- 23:28, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

o hi
click me -- 03:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
-- 03:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Template:AH
Can you check the code I just added to it? I have it swap "Summoning" (as it is listed in the AH) to link to Category:Summoning Magic. At the bottom of all of the Spirit pages (e.g. Air Spirit) it only has categories linked to Magic and Summoning Magic (before the code swap it linked to category:summoning). However after changing it the spirits still show up on Category:Summoning page.

I have the exact same code on Template:Sandbox and User:Wayka/Sandbox and it is not causing my sandbox page to show up on that category. Any ideas on why it may be doing this? -- 02:13, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Lol I kind of figured that out right before you edited me heh, I removed the AH code from the pages, saved it, then put the code back on and saved it and it removed them. :)  -- 02:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Royal Grape
Hrm, I didn't catch that, but dang! -- 06:05, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

btw
I'm writing up a project page for it, but I'm pretty sure you can figure out how to do it yourself. Just a heads up if you're interested. -- 06:14, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Latents
Ack! Seems I was completely oblivious to the blantant large box that said I had messages >.<

Well, now that I've "completed" my little project, it seems I've shot myself in the foot. My goal was consistency, but I should have done a bit more research as to what I should have been consistent about. I'll probably go through and fix them some time soon, but for now, I've had enough excitement for one night. Thanks for all the pointers! --Thalandor46 06:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Wow, seems like you've gone and cleaned up most (if not all) of it for me. Thanks ^^; --Thalandor46 06:35, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

It is finished. All latent and hidden effects listed on that page are complete, consistent, and properly formatted. A lot more work, but totally worth it. Thanks again for all your help! --Thalandor46 07:18, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Ravin Raven
Just leave the source, we have many sources like that for alla and other forums, and it's just inciting them. Unless there's an external reason for having it removed, lets just keep it. -- 14:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Adventuring Fellow Page
When I looked at the page (in Internet Explorer), all the text was crammed on the right side and bolded, and most of the items were misaligned. I tried several "fixes" before reverting, including purging and the like.--FFXI-Cipher 02:37, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

It's the exact same TOC, except Gahoo's version doesn't shove the text down and doesn't make the TOC out to be a header. This version coincides with the section text instead of taking over the top of the page. -- 04:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

The border can be changed, but I don't see any overlapping, it's justified perfectly. -- 04:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

We need to come up with something that accommodates everyone, I'm thinking something along the lines of the TOCs used at job pages. Will look into it more later though, time for bed. -- 04:50, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Infobox
If you remove the breaks, you can make the change. -- 00:57, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


 * And formatting these pages isn't tedious? :P You're more than welcome to help if you like, Windurst hasn't been touched. -- 01:21, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure I'm understanding the problem here. You're suggesting it's broken? Because it's been working fine. If you're saying you want to change it so we don't have to use the breaks to fix alignment issues, go ahead. Pages with breaks will just be a little skewed until we eventually go and remove the breaks. -- 01:00, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

This doesn't seem to be working, the template changes reverses the alignment and removing the line breaks is breaking the formatting. -- 02:39, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Your last change is messing up other pages, and making the notes section right justified for no conceivable reason. I'm going to revert it. -- 02:40, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

She's an abberation that shouldn't have worked that way it did. Dont' test on her. ;) -- 02:46, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I think it's working now. The line breaks also don't seem to affect the old pages, so we can remove them at our leisure. Tell me if see any problems in other pages. -- 02:47, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Dabih Jajalioh is back to normal now. -- 02:54, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree, it would look better along side it, rather than under the other box. Why don't you create a duplicate test template for it, and see if you can coax it into there? That way you can play around without interfering with the formatting project. If you fix it, send me a message so I can take a look (I'll be loggin off after 12:30 est tonight). -- 03:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Whatever you did to get it to do that, could you make the same changes to Test Infobox NPC so I can see what you did? -- 15:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. On my screen, I have a pretty high res, and the notes/history infoboxes aren't fully left justifying. They're still indented slightly, and it's skewing the page a bit. Think you could try to fix it in my aforementioned test template? -- 15:26, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah well, thanks for looking it over. -- 03:50, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

If at all possible, please make all changes to the template at once to avoid raping the job queue. It's not good to make several minor edits to a template in use on so many pages. -- 23:20, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I reserve the right to complain about whatever I want. -- 23:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Crystal Colors
That's a proposal right? You didn't just change the template? -- 01:22, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I'm replying to the indicated talk thread. Discuss ^^ -- 01:34, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Name Highlighting
This is why it's colored and not just bold, and it's just usernames. If you have a different color that is compatible with all the schemes, please suggest, so far only red, purple, and green are suitable. Or you just have too much stuff on your watchlist. -- 22:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I didn't know it would highlight diff and hist, but that's only for userpages anyway from what I've seen, this was a unanimous decision (even though it took a month to be implemented lol). I thought the red was abrasive and stood out too much, but green seems just right. -- 23:13, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I can't see this change yet so not sure whether I like it or not. I agree that if it is too obtrusive it should be removed - but can't tell until I can see it. -- 03:37, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * There is a user CSS change to where users can "turn it off" individually in there css subpage, tried something earlier but it didn't work, researching. It doesn't work in IE also. -- 03:39, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Success! Paste the following into User:Karuberu/yourskin.css The name of the skin you're using is case-sensitive. So Monobook would be monobook.css, it should tell you if you got it wrong.
 * Internet Explorer


 * Firefox

This will de-highlight the nicks and retain watchlist highlighting. Steadfast am I? -- 04:09, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Adventuring Fellow Category
I know the article is a guide but since there is no page for the Adventuring Fellow and creating one would be a waste given that all related information is on the guide page and given the the fact that Adventuring Fellows are the most common form of battle npc the article should be included in Category:Battle Npc's too. -Heretic mkII@ffxi 06:42, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

RE:
There is nothing wrong with my tone, I'm trying to show you what I'm seeing. I am quick and to the point, I like being efficient and don't waste time in doing so. If that's called having a bad tone in your head, then you are reading it entirely wrong. -- 14:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Bat Trios
The bat triplets category has been renamed to Bat Trios (see the talk page for why). So there's no need to revert this back to Bat triplets. -- 00:12, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh, my bad, read it wrong. -- 00:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Code
It might be redundant, but it's really confusing to look at and wonder where you are at. There's really no need to change it, all it will do is cause headache. -- 00:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Promotion
You're now a member of the patrollers usergroup per our admin team, with this your edits will be autopatrolled. You can also patrol the edits of others, and rollback ones that aren't in good faith. Thanks for all your hard work. -- 22:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Added feature
Patrollers should now have the ability to utilize multiple upload which can be accessed at the bottom of special pages. Thanks! --Charibot 06:38, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Template:Map Checklist
A change was made to the template to compensate for the new maps. Please see the map checklist page for the new code to include these in your profile if you choose. Thank you! -- 05:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Drop Rate
Please see Template_talk:Drop_Rate. -- 13:18, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

And now Template talk:Abundance. I would make these changes myself but I am not very good with these "if" codes. -- 21:14, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Crafting revamp
The craft pages were immensely oversized, and took an enormous time to load. On some people's computers, they even caused script errors. Editing pages of their size was a nightmare, at best. The recipes are now split into sections of 10, and are easy to browse through. If you want an entire list, it's at the bottom of the page; it is a category after all. After a page reaches 32KB, it is considered "large" by wiki standards, and may experience problems. Most of these craft pages were well in excess of 100KB. This project has been developing for days now, and you've had plenty of time to put your 2 cents in, so your tone now is unappreciated. The pages were revamped to serve a function: to resize the pages into a more resonable size, but still allow for all the information to be grouped in one place. This has been accomplished by the current layout. However, we are aware that the color schemes may not be the best, these are still up for debate. Check out the FFXIclopedia forum thread about the project to discuss color options. -- 03:26, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I concur, colors can be changed easily, but the new layout is really a step in the right direction. I also agree that your tone and approach isn't the best, especially when it was Chrisjander's idea to give you patroller. I don't think I've ever seen you on the forums, though, so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on not having been able to know about the project in the first place. Either way, your comments to CJ weren't appropriate. --