Talk:Bugbear Matman

Does anyone know the drop rate on these (Rutter Sabatons)? I'm guessing 100%, but as it doesn't say, I can't be sure. Daniel 04:30, 8 June 2006 (PDT) Yeah, I have a feeling that 70% number was pulled out of um, thin air, yeah that's it. I'm 2/8 on it, personally. We're not at a statistically significant sample yet, but I'm going to revise the statement in the article to something more appropriate. VxSote 00:40, 20 December 2006 (EST)
 * Rutter Sabatons is not a 100% drop. We fought it 6 times tonight and got the drop twice, to give you an idea. Hilkiah 04:57, 5 September 2006 (EDT)

To whomever edited the article to reflect "with very low and risky success rate" for a party of 3 75's
My two friends and I, in a party consisting of 75 thf/nin, 75 nin/war, 75 rdm/whm, have not wiped to this monster once in the 12 times it took us to get a pair of booties each. You shouldn't automatically assume that something is "risky" and has a "low chance of success" just because you've never done it. These kind of edits are why people always "need" an alliance for everything in this game.


 * Kalice 00:12, 20 December 2006 (EST)

Just did this with 75THF/NIN 75BRD/WHM 75RDM/BLM and a 75WHM that was being dualboxed by the THF. Never were in trouble the whole fight. --Skjie 20:34, 22 February 2007 (EST)

I also feel that this could be duoed by a Ninja and Red Mage at 75. When I did the run, I brought a Thief along (as well as myself, a 75 Nin and my friend, a 75 Rdm), and all he ended up doing is sitting off too the side, as the mob tended to spam TP moves more often when he attacked it. Without him attacking, the fight went fairly quickly and smoothly. --Demitel 6:44, 31 March 2007 (EST)