FFXIclopedia:AfD Discussions/Vulcan's Ring

It's currently disputed that this is actually obtainable as a HQ Flame Ring. Same with the other HQ elemental rings; of all the hundreds of thousands of rings synthed nobody has been able to prove the existence of a hq result, despite many hq animations on them.

-Aurik

I dont understand... Are you trying to say its an HQ2 or it doesnt exist? Or are you just restating what the recipe blatently says? --Nynaeve 21:04, 30 April 2006 (PDT)

I don't think it really matters, and is an issue for Master Goldsmithers to argue about. I only put it here cause there is a picture, and an entry on Somepage. --Chrisjander 21:42, 30 April 2006 (PDT)

I'm saying it doesn't exist, period. In which case it shouldn't be listed as a HQ1 result at all, or at least a note made about the inaccessability (or disputed inaccessibility) of this item at the current time.

-Aurik

Hmmm, just read the page on Alla for the Vulcan Ring ( http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=5058 ). There's a lot of back and forth about "it's in-game" "it's not in-game" la la la. But no proof of anything...So as far as I can tell, these rings don't appear to be in game. There's no history for any at the AH on Titan either (which isn't proof, but you know what I'm sayin). And a few people said they've gotten a HQ animation on these, but still end up with the NQ version. Maybe we should add that info to these HQ ring pages... Anyone seen these HQ rings in-game? --Rixie 17:40, 1 May 2006 (PDT)

Tell you the truth, I'm not at all surprized none are on AH. Its a Goldsmith (102) recipe, so if someone were to ever in a blue moon synth an HQ, they'd keep it, not sell it. --Chrisjander 18:55, 1 May 2006 (PDT)

Of course they wouldn't sell it - but i'm pretty sure they would put it up and sell it to themself to brag. And as I said, the lack of an AH listing doesn' prove anything (it's a trong indicator though), but the numerous reports that "i've gotten a few HQ animations on that synth, and never get this HQ ring. the HQ comes out an NQ" is what is convincing for me. i found more reports of this kind on the snow rings HQ page (aquilos ring..? somehting like that) --Rixie 19:17, 1 May 2006 (PDT)

You can find similar unfulfilled calls for evidence that they exist on KI and TheOrderLS. As far as anyone can tell, none have ever been listed on any AH anywhere ever. And it's not like the rings are never made...most goldsmiths get the bulk of their skillups 95->100 on these rings... -Aurik

PS. How do I sign my talk entries with my username / datestamp like that? You don't actually input the time manually do you? <_<

You put 4 tildes for it like this ~ --Syeria 00:47, 2 May 2006 (PDT)

Remora have no HQ History of any of these rings. I have personally gotten my flame rings synthed by a 100+6 goldsmither. One of the animations was HQ (I almost wet my pants). Result was NQ. --Daniel 06:20, 2 May 2006 (PDT)

I know there are such things as HQ #2s ~ Just a suggestion but it could be an HQ 2 --Nynaeve 06:52, 2 May 2006 (PDT)

I doubt it, there would have been one to pop by now. We're talking a sample size of literally 10000+ synths, and nobody has reliably confirmed the existence a single one. -Aurikasura 10:41, 2 May 2006 (PDT)

There is also such thing as HQ 3. And well, if the recipe really caps at 102 instead of 100, I don't think you're going to see really any HQ 3 out of it. Well I suppose after about a million or 2 synths you might get one, but I'm pretty sure we don't have that sort of a sample size. --Syeria 11:27, 2 May 2006 (PDT)

I went and changed the synth bits on all the pages to HQ ??: for rings like this, since its debated whether its HQ1 or HQ at all. --Chrisjander 04:08, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

How did we get a screenshot of the item description if the item is unobtainable? Pro-Ether +2/3 probably arent on your server's auction house and you've probably never seen it (non-temp anyway), but those aren't in this category. At any rate, I don't see how its possible to get an SS like is on this page, if the item cannot be obtained, unless it's a photoshop, and it really doesn't look like one (if it is, whoever did it is pretty 133t at PS), so i'm going to move it out of this category and remove the warning. It's a 102 synth- if its higher than an HQ1, it stands to reason that its virtually (not totally) impossible to synth. Tahngarthor 04:45, 3 March 2007 (EST)