User talk:Charitwo/Archive1

Recent Changes Concerns
I'm only a Jr. Admin, so I don't have the ability to mess with the program version (which is probably what's causing your problem, but I'm no computer doctor). User:Ganiman updates the program that runs the wiki, so he would probably be the best qualified to help with your concerns. You can contact him on his talk page, or PM him on the forums. He seems to frequent the forums more often than editing the wiki, so you might be best off throwing him a PM. --Chrisjander 00:20, 23 February 2007 (EST)

Nightmare Enemies
It seems you mentioned the Apocalyptic Beast when you created pages for Nightmare monsters. Also, instead of trying to put an image that doesn't exist, put in. I would do this but since it seems you created this pages you should! Happy editing! --Joped 18:01, 23 February 2007 (EST)

It also seems they were just copy and pastes or something, since I'm seeing Dynamis - Qufim mobs being put under Dynamis - Buburimu in their respective pages. Might wanna change that. --Joped 21:18, 23 February 2007 (EST)

No problem! --Joped 21:31, 23 February 2007 (EST)

Userbox Marked for Deletion
I would like to know why my userbox was marked for deletion. If you mark it, please comment as to why so that it may be fixed. Thank you.

Are you kidding me? You marked our User pages for deletion because we disagreed with decision to mark this userbox for deletion? I think perhaps your Jr. Admin ranking has gone to your head. That or you are not very good with the wiki yet and it was a mistake.--Sparik 17:59, 5 March 2007 (EST)

Pages / Images for Deletion
As per your comment on my talk page, the deletion process typically involves placing the correct template at the top of the page, and then adding a comment to the talk page explaining why it should be deleted. There is a special page that we (as well as you) can view that quickly lists all pages that have this template at the top. This way not only administrators but also normal users can have a chance to discuss the deletion. See FFXIclopedia:Guide to deletion for more information. I'll let you add the template to the top of the image pages unless you tell me otherwise. Thanks! --Divisortheory 10:53, 8 March 2007 (EST)

Redirects
You'll notice that the pages you just marked for deletion, while unnecessary redirects, were there because of a Move function. They should be deleted, but it is unnecessary to have a discussion. If you find more of these, feel free to add the delete tag and a note in the Summary, but please do not create a Talk page for it, it just makes more work for us. Thank you for understanding. --Chrisjander 15:38, 10 March 2007 (EST)

Also, please do not put the delete tag on Userpages, the links do not work properly for that usage. --Chrisjander 15:40, 10 March 2007 (EST)

It is for the better; as for the talk pages, don't worry about it. The message was just to cut you off at the pass ;) --Chrisjander 16:03, 10 March 2007 (EST)

Re: Blue Mage sub page
I haven't gotten around to updating it because I've got all but one BLU mage spell - still not sure if I wish to remove it completely or update it. --Ganiman 15:28, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

protected page changes
are made. thanks. --Gahoo 20:22, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

Userpage edit
Firstly, it's slightly rude to edit someone's userpage without their permission, with few exceptions. Luckily, broken links is one of them. However, since the link is to a userpage, it's still a useful link. I keep it there because she's my friend, and I can still check out her user contributions from that link. I have it there on purpose. --Chrisjander 20:56, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

I made the comment about rudeness as a "something to be careful of" when you edit other people's userpages. I wouldn't even correct their grammar on their userpages. Broken links are another issue though, because they affect the whole site, so those are okay to change, so long as they're not there on purpose. When in doubt of the intention of a red internal link, ask the user before making changes to their user page. --Chrisjander 21:03, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

I think the point is just that a Userpage is a Userpage. Consider it like a MySpace. Imagine if you woke up and someone had edited your MySpace for you. Some people might even take offense to a suggestion that they change their MySpace. I can imagine the response: "It's MySpace". It kinda doesn't matter what was on it IMO, some people have very personal information on their Userpages and you just never know if they're going to take offense. And if they don't want to fix it, there's nothing wrong with that because it's their userpage and only they can know what they might want on their own Userpage. --Divisortheory 11:51, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

In addition, many times, people prefer the broken links to remain. Ironically, Chris corrected some broken link referrences in the archives of my talk pages. I reverted them as well because I wanted the broken links to remain. As a general policy, it is best to not edit people's user pages, or to delete anything off people's talk pages. Even if it is a broken link. It is usually that way for a reason. --Mierin 12:16, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

Thanks
You tell me to verify a claim when you haven't verified your claim? Please verify your claim on a discussion page before making such a revision as previous edits have claimed the item dropping from Ro'Maeve to be correct. Thanks for your understanding.

Pics
You're pics are so dark. :( --Mierin 15:12, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Redirects
Redirects are appropriate for words that are not similar. Like a redirect from Boat to Ferry - Mhaura/Selbina is fine. As is one from say Fame to Reputation. However, redirects for mispellings or different casing should be deleted. All refering sources need to be corrected to the right spelling/casing. --Mierin 15:54, 15 March 2007 (EDT)


 * Yeah, go ahead and tag them with the Delete tag, and in your comment for the edit (in which you add the tag) just say "Unnecessary Redirect." We'll take a look at them all and see if we agree.  Then we'll speedy delete them.  --Mierin 16:21, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

You were not told to delete them. You were told to tag them and then "We'll take a look at them all and see if we agree". --Chrisjander 17:20, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

I beg to differ. Mierin has clearly stated to tag them, and then we'll take a look at them. We includes me, and I don't agree with those two. You'll notice the ones I agree with are speedy deleted. There is a use for those two redirects. --Chrisjander 17:24, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Regardless, we have a difference of opinion, and I will respect that. Because of this, I will direct you to Talk:Xp (Talk:Atk references this discussion) so that you can put your 2 cents in. --Chrisjander 17:39, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

I think Mierin answered the question you asked on my talk page - "redirects for mispellings or different casing should be deleted" --Ganiman 18:24, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

User Pictures
Just so you know about it, I recently made a template User Pics for instructing users on what is acceptable for user pictures. Feel free to use it ^^. --Chrisjander 18:29, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Consider how many links we have for the image policy that no one ever reads. We have it in the Welcome and New User template, it's at the top of every page, and when you go to the Upload File page, it's in large bold print. Somehow these people are still missing it, so I made the template hard to miss. --Chrisjander 18:32, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

People usually react well, or at least don't complain, when you use an "official document". Effectively, it's something that happens so often, we have a nice reminder for them. They don't feel singled out, or like it's a /slap "Bad new user!". It's a lesson I learned from perusing the wikipedia policies (I think it was part of the "Don't bite the newcommers" one). My personal favorite policy from there was "No climbing the Reischtag dressed like Spiderman", heh. --Chrisjander 23:05, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

Deleting Redirects
Most of the pages you're marking for deletion have pages linking to them, meaning that currently the wiki has an enormous number of broken links due to the newly deleted redirects. I hope you're planning to fix them :( --Divisortheory 18:45, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

You can also fix it before you even mark the page for deletion. Just click "What links here" on the left, and change everything before putting the delete template in. --Divisortheory 18:50, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Other users' pages
I don't necessarily think that what you are doing by correcting the spelling on other users' pages is wrong, but when you do this, I think it would be appropriate to drop them a note on their talk page describing what you did and why. User pages are kind of a personal space, and other users invading the space can be taken the wrong way, even if you are doing something for the "greater good". I do appreciate you fixing those kind of links for people, don't mistake that - but please try to drop a kind note for them. This could also help to prevent it from happening again. Thanks :) --Ganiman 20:07, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
 * I completely understand why you were correcting the user pages, but some users might not - which is why I requested a quick note be dropped on their page with an explanation. They might click the history link and go... ZOMG WHO TOUCHED MY PAGE OHHHH NOOOEEEZZZZZ! --Ganiman 07:56, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

Lottery spawn and other concerns
Finished the What links here for Lottery spawn. You don't really have to bother with most of the links for "Fame". We're keeping that redirect. The only ones you might want to change are "official" pages, not for guides or walkthroughs. Besides, if you think about it, it might be linked to every single quest page... the task would be enormous, and not really worth it since we're keeping the redirect. But in the end, what work you want to do is up to you. --Chrisjander 23:24, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Nevermind, just saw Ganiman's comment on Talk:Fame. --Chrisjander 23:27, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Novv
I dunno how to explain it, but I always thought the verification tag looked weirder when it's not touching whatever is not verified. XD --Joped 17:19, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

On new articles
Please do not discourage new users when they are adding content. It's one thing if they're violating policy, but if they're adding actual content, rather than telling them to stop, it's more appropriate to question them on why they are adding it, rather than telling them "Stop" because you don't approve of it. Besides the fact that you don't actually have the authority to tell someone to not add legitimate content (by legitimate, I mean not in violation of policy), it tends to put people in a fighting mood, and the last thing I want is another fight or edit war. By telling the user to stop, you've effectively superseded the AfD process of bringing the decision to the community. --Chrisjander 12:15, 17 March 2007 (EDT)

Absolutely. After the preliminary stuff is in, feel free to help with formatting to spiff up the article. --Chrisjander 12:21, 17 March 2007 (EDT)