User talk:Charitwo/Archive11

Game Script Edits
What happened to the videos on the page for the script to CoP 8-4? I've been adding the scripts like crazy and am FINALLY almost done, but I'm wondering there the videos that used to be there went. --Rosalie 04:44, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for that clarification. I tend to ignore most of the drama, though this page is starting to turn into my pet project (lol.) --Rosalie 04:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Chapter 8 of CoP Missions is COMPLETELY done now! I might start working on Chapter 7 next, but I'm just hitting up whatever Goblin Footprint I'm standing around being bored at during endgame events for now. --Rosalie 16:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

COP IS DONE! Rosalie 05:22, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Congrats :) -- 17:33, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

The "New!" and it problem with printing"
As you know there are a lot of problems and complants about the printing issue. I belive it to happen due to the new stuff it was working just fine untill they added all this new stuff and the need to fix it i was passed off once as o it is no error and it all is fine. the is not so we all are having problems and it is not just one computer i have tryede many it is on your guys end and it needs to be fixed not just passed and said o the is no problem. --TheTrueDimension 11:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Very much, Charitwo, for passing the info I sent you I got a e-mail from sannse and the problem is being adressed. It was a problem with the new code and will be fixed soon. Sorry for hurrasing you and that about the issue but it was a major problem. Once more thank you very much for geting the ball rolling to fixing the Wiki. --TheTrueDimension 18:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Policy Template for Drop Rate Template
I posted this on Chrisjander's talk page about a week ago with no repose, so I figured I'd ask you ^^;. Anyway...

Would it be possible to add a Policy Template explaining the basic rules of using the drop rate template (e.g. report ALL drops, add your drop to the current tally, be sure to increase the total number of kills/whatever for all items, etc)? That way i dont have to type a new message every time i see 9/10 people violate these rules, and so they can see for themselves that it's in the "offical rules" and that i'm not talking out my "butt" ^^;

--Jawat 22:01, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Bolding and stuffs
Yeah I made those edits at late-o-clock. --Sharaa 23:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Aerns
why did you revert my edits to the aern pages? just because they don't aggro, doesn't mean whether they detect by sight or sound isn't important information. -- 22:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * H = Aggros by sound. You just answered your own question. -- 01:51, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * according to the Template:Monster Notes, H = Detects by Sound. it doesn't say aggros by sound. -- 20:13, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * That's how we word it. Arguing semantics won't get you anywhere. -- 20:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * if you say so. -- 20:36, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * further, seeing as most other mobs that link, but do not aggro, also say what they link to, should that be removed? examples of such, are opo-opo, and xzomit. -- 20:49, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Link to the specific pages themselves, not the family page. -- 20:52, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Young Opo-opo, Temple Opo-opo, Wild Sheep, Ul'xzomit, etc. -- 20:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, mobs that link keep the L, but should not have the S for detects by sight because they don't aggro that way (i.e. walking in front of one of those with a level 1 character). -- 21:10, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I think I disagree with this. Based on Charitwo's criteria, the A=Agressive flag is rendered useless, and leaves no way to know how the mobs link.  When pulling a room full of Aern's, I'd sure like to know if they link based on sound rather than sight.  --Yatuwatu 6:32 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Tables
Hello-wello Charitwo. May I ask you how to make a table on FFXIclopedia? I have searched the editing guide and I could not find any information on it. --Winthrop 05:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind, I found some info on constructing a table via a link in the editing guide. --Winthrop 04:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy Delete
I was deleting duplicates, not redirects. Check what I deleted. They were full and complete duplicates of the correct page, not redirects. The person who requested the speedy delete noted the complete copies and asked for a speedy delete of the not used duplicate. I reviewed the pages and noticed that he was correct that they were in fact complete duplicates. If you want a redirect, put it in. -- 18:20, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I am the one who has been requesting the deletes. I have requested tons more to day. People have made several copys of the Campain Ops missions under diffrent names but are the same page that has be duplicated. TheTrueDimension 19:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Why keep them that is bull crap when the page has already been made with the correct name. Going and making pages that are in this format is bull. (Quest Name) B, W, S,. The formal and correct way sould be (Quest Name) San d'Oria, Bastok, or Windurst. a redirct is fine since all the pages go to the right page anyway these that i have asked to be deleted are not linked to on the campain Ops page so as far as i see FFXI-Mierin has done no wrong, but just got rid of trash. TheTrueDimension 19:18, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Nope, you got it wrong, I thought Mierin was deleting the redirects, not the duplicates. I'll sort out the redirects later, however, much thanks for pinpointing dupe pages. -- 20:49, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Mog Bonanza
I'll play with it a bit -- 19:54, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No idea. I didn't see any references to it and the main page pointed to SE. -- 20:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm done with it now I think. OK? -- 20:17, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Resized Image
Ok ive stretched this one in photoshop, but as you can see there's already some pixelation -Heretic mkII@ffxi 05:45, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

He's at it again
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=Warrior:_Guide_to_Weapons_and_Armor&diff=next&oldid=498173

Does Troy75warlakshmi know why he was blocked before for doing this? --1.quos.vita.habitum.captivus 23:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Socks
 User wikia:User:TailsChan Tiny create wikia:User:TailsChan (+0) URL: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=User:TailsChan&rcid=539900 "New user"  User wikia:User:TailsPrower Tiny create wikia:User:TailsPrower (+0) URL: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=User:TailsPrower&rcid=539901 "New user"  User wikia:User:TailsPrower Tiny create wikia:User:TailsSan (+0) URL: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=User:TailsSan&rcid=539903 "New user"  User wikia:User:TailsPrower Tiny create wikia:User:Kurisutian (+0) URL: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=User:Kurisutian&rcid=539904 "New user"  User wikia:User:Kurisutian Tiny create wikia:User:Kurisuchan (+0) URL: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=User:Kurisuchan&rcid=539905 "New user"

Manticore  (talk)  07:16, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Yellow Box
I didn't see the yellow box at all. Do you? --Leuqarte 17:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * And, what's the diff between User_Talk and UserWiki_Talk? --Leuqarte 17:36, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * it may have also been because I clicked the link directly from my e-mail notification (which I DID receive), and proceeded directly to the talk page. Once the page is visited, does it disappear? --Leuqarte 18:35, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * note on this: I did NOT receive email notif for the userwiki edit. Only for talkpage edit. --Leuqarte 00:03, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Test it one more time? I had a message on both usertalk and userwikitalk, clicking the "new message" took me to usertalk and made the box disappear.  Can you leave one more message on userwiki-talk without a message on usertalk?  --Leuqarte 18:54, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * nothing. --Leuqarte 20:55, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Infobox NPC
Sure, it can be done easily with a. I just need to know all the exceptions (i.e. Wyvern, Mandragora, etc.) so I can put them in the template.

Or, if you'd rather do it case-by-case, I put in something like  (allowing you to choose the link by using the "beastiary link" variable). ~ Karuberu 21:41, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, fixed the original problem. Typing "Mandragora", "Pixie", "Treant", or "Wyvern" will now automatically point to the category instead of the monster. Just add to the  if you run into any more mobs like this. ~ Karuberu 01:37, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

About Square_Enix/May_2008_Interview
I'm considering to translate this articles into Japanese. But I cannot judge whether I can do it or not because of "SE-Protected".--Tommy6 08:15, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You may translate it, but ensure the target page is also protected, as Square-Enix permits on sysops to edit information distributed by them (i.e. news, vana'diel tribune, interviews, etc) -- 13:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I see. Thx for you reply, I'll do it.--Tommy6 10:35, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Item Template Revisions
Well, the point of my revisions is to make the Item Template as simple and easy-to-use as possible, which includes making the code look "friendlier" to new users. Main page links are ever-so-slightly simpler (read "friendlier") than category links, so I'd prefer to use them for the sake of new users. In any case, it's just an example; feel free to expand on it and make suggestions, but remember that it doesn't neccessarily have to meet with the current standards unless/until it's made official. ~ Karuberu 01:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't necessarily agree, and they'll just be copying/pasting most of the time anyway, and removing what is not applicable. I can understand if they were typing it up from scratch, but that's not what we're doing here. The templates exist for a reason, for a simple copy/paste -> add info -> remove irrelevant -> save. -- 01:15, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Alright, I'll give you that. I just hate not using something that makes the code simpler (I've never understood why people on this site avoid redirects like the plague). ~ Karuberu 02:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Drop Rates
Better to have uneven kill counts than inaccurate data which sadly is where we are headed now. I don't add to the insect wing kill count on VE's page for example, unless I know how many I had (and tossed >.>) for the entire session trying to get my friend a hairpin. I try and keep track, sometimes I fail to. I can still add 30 kills to the hairpin drop rate though because I know how many of that we got - zero. If the items weren't each displayed as an independent drop chance% we'd have problems but thankfully they are. Mostly on NM's is where things will go haywire, I can see maybe requiring users to keep track of mandy buds and cotton both "or don't update". Tracking an insect wing on VE just isn't a priority for anyone, and never will be. --1.quos.vita.habitum.captivus 23:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Why do they need to be even? I don't understand. If policy was set forth on wiki that I must add kills to those insect wings, what page is that on? Sorry this is just news to me. This directly contradicts what was discussed on the template page itself http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Drop_Rate#Multiple_Drop_Possibilities o_O? --1.quos.vita.habitum.captivus 23:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

...So...Don't add kills to hairpin if I don't have data for stupid wings? Is the a page somewhere where a consensus was reached on this subject? --1.quos.vita.habitum.captivus 23:19, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

'''Its not hard to answer me. It really isn't.''' We don't all have log parsers running when we spend 12hrs straight helping a friend with VE. We really don't. --1.quos.vita.habitum.captivus 23:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Still didn't answer. And there is NOTHING about uneven kill counts that poses any kind of accuracy problem under the present display method. Why is it so hard do just answer: ''Don't add kills to hairpin if I don't have data for stupid wings? Is the a page somewhere where a consensus was reached on this subject? Instead you are trying shift us off the subject onto how hard it isn't to record things that almost nobody gives a crap about''. Do you want to honestly tell me insect wings from VE are important? You had some idiots spam change pages. Because of idiots you prefer we pollute or discard data. AWESOME. Nobody is going to take a notepad and record insect wings for 12hrs. Nobody. You may as well just lock all the drop rate pages or insert random numbers into the drop rates. If all you are going to do is defend your point of view and not link me or even say that you don't know if that is they case, save us both some time and DON'T. --1.quos.vita.habitum.captivus 23:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow. You've got to be kidding me. You're acting like the whole wiki is behind you on this, when it's basically just you and a random other editor. Stop trying to defend your point for a second and actually think about the situation. Who cares if the numbers aren't even? It really has no effect on anything. The only downside I can think of is that it increases the possibility that people will screw up the math, but even that is only a slight problem (and something people usually catch after they've done it). If you have a huge problem with it, just go out and farm the mobs until you have enough data to even-out the numbers. If you're not willing to do that, try your best to just ignore it. This discussion has already been had. The conclusion: Drop rates do not have to be even. Thank you, and don't bother replying unless you bring a decent arguement. ~ Karuberu 05:21, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Put down your scepter and get off your high-horse. This is a wiki. Things are resolved through discussion, not dictation. You can revive the discussion and try to change people's minds, but you can't just say "This is how the drop template will work." I'm sorry, but that is not how this site is run, and you know it. ~ Karuberu 05:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

When reporting the drops for Hornfly, I noticed you put 4 wings dropping from one kill... was this a correction of previous reports? -- 07:40, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


 * We've had this discussion before as Karuberu noted. These drops do not need to be even, although the preference would be to have all reported.  When I have time I will draft an "official" policy on this and the abundance template which operates differently.  For now this should control and then we can discuss the policy if needed after it is drafted.  Thanks for understanding. -- 14:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I would also have to agree with 1.quos, I'd rather the information be accurate than be "even". I'd rather have the Empress Hairpin droprate accurate over having the insect wings droprate even.  It is an acceptable sacrifice to have the Hairpin droprate correct if the wings get ignored.  To quote you, "accuracy and quality over quantity."  The accuracy and quality of the Hairpin droprate is more important than the quantity of drops for the wings.  Thus, in sum, I agree with Gahoo's rule, whether it is a change or a restatement of the original.  -- 18:51, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * We just need to get something official like Gahoo said, it'd be nice to have something clearcut to go by. I'm just using my best judgement. It doesn't make any sense to have 125 and 50. -- 19:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

This is a side question that is probably a common-sense answer but it is not meantioned anywhere in the guidelines for the drop template. Do you wish to discourage adding the drop rate of items if you had Treasure Hunter active while collecting that data? If so should there be a secondary drop rate for data that DID use Treasure Hunter? Simple question, just curious (Only meantion this because I cant speak for anyone else but i generally only pay attention to drops/mob if i have treasure hunter on :p Unless im just doing a little data collection out of boredom to add to high demand items like i did for the magicked skull awhile ago) —BioShark 03:53, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Transrating
User:Tommy6/SE/Piano Collections Final Fantasy XI Official Site was Opened!
 * Done, plz check it and collect to more natural English. If you have a question or point that cannot understand, plz ask me without hesitate.--Tommy6 03:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

High Quality Synth
Hi. The page High Quality Synth is up for deletion for ages now, and the discussion is pretty one minded for a redirect to to High Quality. Could you take care of it? Thank you. --Gisselle 17:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Gil gift
Thanks for your gift of gil, but I actually don't have a FFXI account ^^;;. You don't mind if I send it to a friend who does, do you? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  貢  03:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Charibot
...

You could have at least used the elemental color templates correctly when you set your bot to change stuff. >_<

"" should be used in place of "" when possible, since they produce the same thing,  and "" automatically links to the element's page, so that's a good choice as well. The Monster Template actually needs to be updated on this. ~ Karuberu 01:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

The bolded/colored text function of the elemental color templates has been practically phased-out by Template:Color (indeed, that was the intention), so one could argue that editors don't really need to know how to use that aspect of the template and should really learn how to use the other functions instead. Also, I think "" would be the preferred use, since it creates the link to the element page, but I guess that's a discussion for the monster template's talk page.

I understand why the bot was run, but I think that's what bothers me the most: it wasn't actually the bot's purpose, but it was included in the bot's run anyways. I think you're getting a little careless with your edits. ~ Karuberu 02:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm also referring to your recent edits to categorize templates into the Template category. Instead of adding the category into the existing "noinclude" tags, you just tacked it onto the end of the pages, adding whitespace in the process (this is a common mistake with templates; an extra line of whitespace can really screw-up templates, since it's added when the template is transcluded into the articles and can cause some bad spacing issues). I didn't mention this before because it's such a common mistake and is easily fixed, but it was a careless series of edits nonetheless, and it seems like it's starting to become a trend here.

I consider the conversion of the elemental template uses sloppy because it's (seemingly) based on your own reasoning rather than the current wiki standards (I know it's not how it's used in the Monster Template, but it is how the template is intended to be used). Bots are too powerful too be used haphazardly.

In any case, I don't mean to be insulting. I appreciate it when people tell me when I start to get sloppy, so I try to tell others when I think they are. ~ Karuberu 03:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Key Pages
Ve'Lugannon Coffer Key. Unfortunately, that's about as good as it gets. The "thumb" setting for images is really hard to work with (especially when having to consider other resolutions) and the similar "frame" setting doesn't resize. I tried playing around with it when the Key Template was created, but couldn't get anything but the basic design to work well. ~ Karuberu 05:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Partying edit war?
There seems to be some disagreement between me and User:Alaik on whether NINs should be considered DDs or not. Specifically, he added the NIN job to the "All except..." part of the DD section, implying that NINs aren't DDs. I removed the incorrect information, and he added it again without any explanation. I don't want to start an edit war, so I'd like to know your opinion. Thanks. Mifaco 08:57, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Template:Click-Inline
Could you remove the extra line of whitespace from Template:Click-Inline? It's causing problems with some userbox templates and I can't edit protected pages. Just merging the two noinclude sections should do it. ~ Karuberu 10:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Resale Price
It's just a mention in the report, but that's official enough for me. ~ Karuberu 23:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

These are all I can think of, without getting too complex: I'll let you know if I think of any more. ~ Karuberu 02:23, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * →  (up to HQ #3)
 * →  (up to HQ3)
 * →  (same for all elements)
 * →  (up to HQ #3)
 * →  (up to HQ3)
 * →  (same for all elements)
 * →  (up to HQ3)
 * →  (same for all elements)

Looks good. The bot's a little too simple to fix a lot of the code problems, unfortunately, but the cosmetic changes will be nice. Hooray for consistent design! ~ Karuberu 03:31, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry!!
Omg Im sorry will do --Ash 05:33, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Abbreviation Redirects
You deleted ZM, which I had entered as a redirect to Rise of the Zilart Missions. The policy on FFXIclopedia:Prohibited_Articles says "Certain types of redirects are not allowed. While other wiki may allow a much broader range of redirects, only certain kinds are acceptable. Redirects for misspellings and different capitalizations are not allowed. Redirects to userpages are not allowed. Redirects for commonly used and in-game abbreviations is allowed." ZM is a commonly used abbreviation for Rise of the Zilart Missions. However, you said on FFXIclopedia_talk:Prohibited_Articles "Due to the way search works, the last is not allowed. Misspellings are a given. And naming conventions require we expand on abbreviations, so those aren't allowed either. Those are the 3 most common unnecessary redirects, but there is the occasional wierd one, but that's on a case-by-case basis.". These are inconsistent with one another. Either (my preference) this article and others like it should be left intact, or the policy should be updated. Thanks, Kenoubi 21:08, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Small Picture
Sorry about that, but i took the screen from the normal screenshottool from FFXI, and just cut out the mob, no further resizing / resampling. I do not use a windower, so thats no option, open for suggestions. --Gisselle 09:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Uploading Images
I have my screenshots saved as JPEG files and then I trim them in Paint. They are not BMPs at any point ever. -- 07:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Drop rate
I noitced that a page I edited was reverted. http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Sylvestre

With a comment on the number of mobs I killed. I did kill 46 as I was farming cotton, and found a realy good spot with about 10+ all in one spall aera. I just wanted to know why it was reverted, when the information I put on there was tallyed up when counting the number of kills and drops. _Crawlerbasher 22:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Mediawiki notices
I don't really think there is a need to use the mediawiki notice when one or two people are doing something improper. Talk pages are just as effective if not more. -- 18:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

GLBTQ Players
I created the GLBTQ Players category simply to be more inclusive than just players who identify themselves as gay. My intention was to delete the Gay Players category and only have the GLBTQ Players category. Is that all right? --Jaison 23:02, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * GLBTQ is definitely not alright, and someone else in the community has already tagged the other template for deletion. So apparently I'm not alone. -- 23:04, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Why is GLBTQ not all right? --Jaison 23:35, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Because this game is rated teen, a 13 yr old who doesnt know what GLBTQ related stuff is, shouldn't be running to their parents asking what it means and why those people on the wiki are marked specially for it. There is such a thing as taking it "too far". This is an all ages wiki, and it's going to stay that way. -- 23:38, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * This is not some sort of open and shut issue - so please do not characterize it that why prior to any decisions being made. Thanks. -- 00:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I just don't understand why when someone states themselves as being gay, it has to be a sexual issue. If a man states they have a wife, I can certainly assume they are having some sort of sexual relationship together, but I'm not going to accuse them of forcing their sexuality on me simply for stating they're married.  Sounds like a double standard to me.  --Jaison 01:09, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The category stands as speedy delete. The templates and userboxes however are standard AfD, I have no opinion on those. They'll run their 2 week course. -- 01:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

de point system / social
I'd rather have a similar menu on the left like on the english Wiki than the point system. Point system is only usefull if there were more people editing. Shaari 06:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I finished what I want and its quite a lot I know. But its very similar to the English version. I know that there are some pages not created yet. But having a menu like this makes it easier to go to the pages you wanna edit/create faster. And its easier to find stuff (you dont have to go to the main page all the time). However if its too much work to make and if you think its not needed in the full version I suggested, I'd appreciate it if you'd add at least the 8 main menu points and maybe adding the sub points at a later date (like when there are more articles). I am working on the German wiki almost every day and trying to add the most important stuff first (like finishing the missions and quests). A proper menu would help lots imo. Thanks in advance :) Shaari 10:04, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I added the german deletion template in articles that should be deleted already. I can leave him an addional message as well though. Thanks a lot :) Shaari 10:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, I thought about that point system again and I think it might be a good idea to introduce it now. I left DNL a message like you told me before, but I didnt get any feedback yet. Thanks ^^ --Shaari 10:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Layout/Format

 * I am a noob with layout/formatting etc, but I noticed that the "content box" of the German wiki is closer to the top than on the English version. And so the ads are inside the "content box/body" in the German version and on the English site within the banner. I wonder if its possible to adjust the German wiki so this part (the content box thingy and the ads) look similar to the English one? Shaari 13:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Templates

 * I hope you can answer my question... We have some Templates in English and German and I would like Calv to delete them, but he said before he can do that, the articles that use these wrong templates have to changed first (means adding the proper template to it). So now my question is... how can I see all articles that use a certain template? I know I can see which templates a single article uses... but I need it the other way around. Can you help me? Shaari 10:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

ohi
Heh, the game lost my interest for a while but recently pulled me back in ;). I hope I can start wiki'ing regularly again now. 10:06, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

User Pictures
The user image policy states that an image must be incorporated into the userpage. I have noticed that when it is incorporated into the profile section (instead of the userwiki), it does not show on the image page itself that it is in use (and as a result, my first test image was deleted). I will reupload User-Leuqarte.PNG and demonstrate. This will be added to my Social Profile. --Leuqarte 20:53, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Understood - It seemed to be more as a bug or in some way it is not clear as to what defines a "user page" - that it has to be on the Wiki and not the social profile. I remember a user that continued to upload and place it on the Social Profile but obviously didn't understand the difference between them (and why it continually kept being deleted).  Feel free to delete my test image (again) - I just wanted to use it to make an example of a possible issue.  Thanks --Leuqarte 21:05, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Sanraku
I don't want to edit war the page Sanraku, but Ryujistorm reverted the last edit so that it now contains a lot of speculation that I think should be done on the talk page... 10:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Red Cape
Just meant to remove the spurious .OGG link that was on there. I might have accidentally edited the edit which added the problem instead of editing the actual article. --Lirmont 01:16, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Stubborn Dredvodd
According to Stubborn Dredvodd's page, it's believed he's a 21-24hr repop. However, I have recently killed him and camped him the next day 19-25hrs after his death with no appearance. So it seems this information is incorrect, but I'm not quite sure what to put in it's place, since there's basically no known working theory on his pop. --Jawat 08:02, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

My signature
It lost capitalization! :o look at this: --leuqarte 22:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC) Any ideas? (I'll probably customize it someday anyway but yeah I thought this odd.)
 * Well, look at that :) I never go through preferences, hence the Monaco:Slate skin and such. I tweaked a few things and we'll see how they work out. I must have done something to lose cap when I changed to custom though...  --Leuq 22:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Unnecessary Redirects
Looks like you have some cleanup to do: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Freazer TheMysteriousX 20:36, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

EXP Chain
Charitwo I noticed you deleted the page EXP chain which redirected to Experience Chain I don't see why, since in game is says "EXP Chain #1!" which according to prohibited articles would make it acceptable since it's a term used by the game itself and not slang. Could you please get back to me when you get a minute. Thanks --Firewall 20:30, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

LL
Could you check this edit by User:Bowlet? It seems erroneous, should it be adjusted back? 21:44, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Image Replacement
I replaced [[media:DarksteelForge.png|DarksteelForge.png]] with [[media:DarksteelForge.jpg|DarksteelForge.jpg]] because the original was nearly 1MB in size. That's a six minute download for a 28.8k connection. Way too long. The JPEG image quality is no worse than the 1MB original but at a fraction of the size. This is why it was replaced! --Laraul 09:02, 16 July 2008 (UTC)


 * 28.8, holy moley, you need an upgrade. As for replacing images, size alone is no longer an issue now that we're with Wikia, with the old servers space was an issue, but it's not anymore, the reduction you made on the PNG itself is sufficient, thanks. -- 10:41, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

set +1 Vs +1 set
Are you really changing all of these pages around? Do you have a list of all the ones that need changing or are you just methodically going through them all and moving? And waht prompted this change? IMO  sounds better to me. LiennaOfShiva 18:43, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL \thanks for the cookie, whatever it was for.

Vaa Oozu's Scolopendrid pic
I removed the picture replace tag from Vaa Oozu's Scolopendrid - This is actually the way the name is displayed in-game. Moo Ouzi the Swiftblade's name does the same thing in Campaign Battles - the final letter is dropped, as it seems only 22 characters can be displayed next to the Campaign Tag icon. Vaa Oozu's Scolopendrid and Moo Ouzi the Swiftblade are both 23 characters long. --Leuq 21:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Understood. Therefore, Image:Swiftbladepast.jpg should be tagged too? --Leuq 21:24, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I do not have the DAT information, so I only added (copied) the first sentence from Scolopendrid over to Swiftblade. I'm not aware of any others but I will keep that policy in mind. --Leuq 21:58, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Main Page/Site Activity
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FFXI-
No, I don't think I do own that username. That was my username before FFXIclopedia became apart of Wikia and then it had to be changed because another account with that name already existed. I'm guessing that that must be the account. But anyways, why are you concerned about it, just outta curiousity? I mean it's very considerate of you to show concern about it and all, but it seems kinda funny that you'd be worried about the username of one of many FFXIclopedia username… You're not hitting on me by any chance, are you? XD –FFXI-Anson 01:13, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * What exactly do you mean by "reobtain"? Does that mean there might be a way for me to have that username? Well if not, it's fine, I'd rather stick with Anson, even if I have to have the "FFXI-" prefix in front of it. I just prefer to have the same username as my in-game character so that I can be identified more easily by individuals who may be on my server. Which, in this case, is kind of useful seeing as how I'm on the Phoenix server which, from what I understand, is the same server that many of this site's mods are from. So yeah, I have no problem with sticking with this username.^^ –FFXI-Anson 01:22, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Okies, well just lemme know if it is possible to change it to just "Anson" for now. If it's not, then I'll consider my options. :3 –FFXI-Anson 01:35, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Stormwaker Head
Just had to say I love the Stormwaker Head image, very dramatic ^^ - Hiachi 09:10, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

FFXI-
Before FFXI Clopedia was merged with Wikia, my account name was just Andra, yes. But after the merge, my account was renamed into FFXI-Andra because of a Nickname-Crash. So no, Andra shouldn't be my account. But it would be cool to have just "Andra" back. If the account is inactive, i would gladly "take" it. =) Otherwise i'll maybe think of another Account-Name. Thanks for the hint though. -FFXI-Andra 12:32, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, thanks for the offer, but right now i can't think of any other name then "Andra" - so, if the account merging isn't possible, I guess i'll just stick with the FFXI- - till i come up with something else, maybe. ^_^; -FFXI-Andra 11:56, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

RCP
Thanks for the upgrade! I've always liked verifying new edits when I have nothing to do; this ability will surely aid in doing that. BTW, there is a typo in the Sunbreeze Festival SiteNotice box ;) 16:58, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Tu'Lia Gods are not Black Mages.
I'm sorry Charitwo, but they're not. If a mob could be defined as a Black based on using high level magic then every. single. monster. fought for items in sky and sea would be a black mage, but they're not.

Kirin is not a black mage. Genbu is not a black mage. Suzaku is not a black mage. Seiryu is not a black mage. Byakko is not a white mage. Mitsukai-Hawke 03:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

And this certainly will be taken under consideration by the FFXI COmmunity (http://bluegartrls.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61279) - give it a few hours and then you'll have your answer. Kirin and the others being black mages are only your 'opinion'. Has SE ever outright said that these gods are also black mages? I think not.

You'll also notice in your apparent rush to revert Kirin, I also edited other things, among them were incorrect info about bind and better rewording of sentences, but I suppose since it all went back we must want FFXIclopedia to support the display of incorrect information. Revert first and notice additional changes later. Mitsukai-Hawke 03:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but it sounded like you just said, "The community is not reliable for this wiki." - and a wiki is what? Updated by the community. It shouldn't matter upon 'whose' forums the question is asked and answered. Players are players. Will it be more suitable if it was FFXIclopedia's own forums? The same thing will be said in both places. Mitsukai-Hawke 03:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I try to change the norm, because the entire time it's been 'the norm' it's been incorrect. You may have lived your entire FFXI life believing the gods to have multiple jobs, but it doesn't make it correct. You said a mob's job is defined by three things; well if Kirin doesn't use Manafont; and he doesn't use any black mage abilities, but then wait, he casts Stonega IV and Stone V so certainly he's a black mage. But then wait, why isn't, say, Lord of Onzozo a black mage? He casts Flood and Waterga III and yet he has no job. Gration? Cemetery Cherry is only listed as Dark Knight, but wait; DRKs can't casts Sleepga II or Paralyga. I guess he must be a Black Mage 'too'. Jormungand - DRK and using Blizzaga III. Tsk. Tsk. Look at all these mobs that use these spells but aren't black mages.

But lets go further, Faust runs at Flee speed. While it's permanent, it's certainly a thief trait. So why isn't he a Thief? Olla Grande casts Diaga II but only a WHM. Shouldn't the use of the AoE form of Dia make him a Red Mage as well? Same for Ullikummi. Olla Media a DRK that uses Bio III and Sleepga II? My god, this guy must have three jobs.

So as FFXIclopedia's own articles themselves say... magic alone does not define a mob's additional jobs. Mitsukai-Hawke 04:25, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I was talking to a friend about this argument and he came up with additional problems with the gods being black mages, and I quote:

"Just because a job can cast high level spells does not make it /Blm, or part Blm, or anything of the sort. Tu'Lia gods are given certain Offensive spells as a way to make them more dangerous. Byakko casts Paralyga and Banishga, but I don't see him casting Cure V on himself like a WHM mob would. The other 3 lesser gods cast Offensive magic, again, but don't cast the usual "Spike" spells that are associated with the BLM job. Tu'Lia gods have one job. They are given a small set of Offensive spells to compliment their existing abilities. That does not qualify as 'Half BLM'."

And to that I have to ask, how would you respond in defense of the gods still be black mages. Mitsukai-Hawke 04:47, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Tu'Lia gods are not Black Mages. Their Articles list an additional job of "Black Mage" for each of them. This is incorrect, along with quite a bit of information on these pages. It should be changed. If you do not say that Black Mage is Primary, half, or any percentage of the God's jobs, then you have no grounds to prevent the Article from being corrected. If you wish to be stubborn and "prove your point", you can go through and edit a few hundred more NM pages so that every NM that can cast a -ga spell is classified as Black Mage. Or, you could stop kicking a dead horse and just admit that your original edits were wrong. Yes. Your edits. You were wrong. An Administrator of this Wiki should behave better than this. You do both yourself, and this Wiki no good service by conducting yourself in this manner. Suck it up. Greatguardian 05:02, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

If you want to classify the "spell and abilties" that a mob can use, then that is what the Notes section is for. Adding Black Mage to the list of jobs for a mob is utterly confusing to any person who reads it. A Job for a player is determined by their two-hour. To 99% of the wiki readers, the "Job:" category is not a list of spells and abilities, the "Job:" category is the "This mob uses these two-hours:" category. This plays down in Absolute Virtue's case easily. Every single job he has listed is a two-hour he can use. But take away Manafont and guess what? HE'D STILL BE USING AERO V AND AEROGA IV. Take away Manafont and he no longer has the BLM JOB, he has the BLM SPELLS. He would not be a BLM by job. He would be everything he was before minus Black Mage. Mitsukai-Hawke 05:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

To Mitsukai-Hawke - who even cares what jobs gods are? They use abilities and magic and so on and so forth befitting of multiple jobs, so why not state that the gods have multiple jobs, until SE says otherwise? Instead of being disrespectful and insulting to the Admin of this wiki, you should waste your time on better things, maybe even trying to get proof one way or another for your claims. Until you can show proof your words are dust. --Aledacia ~ RDM Extroidinaire. 05:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)