User talk:Karuberu

Keys
Keys already have their own format. Please leave their formats alone. Adding the category is perfectly fine, but please do not change the format. --Chrisjander 14:56, 11 June 2006 (PDT)

Could you show me the format? There's no article dedicated to it and most of the keys have different format. ~ Karuberu 15:12, 11 June 2006 (PDT)

I know you are just trying to help, but you really shouldn't be going around changing pages that are perfectly fine the way they are to fit into the way you think they should be. So far no one likes your purposed changes. Even one of the creators/admins of this website stated he isnt for your changes. The changes you recently just made to your purposed item template still doesn't make it any better than the current and certainly not better than the new purposal made by Gani. The whole point of the statistics page is to make it look like it does in FFXI so that people who first come to this site will recognize the format.

I know you do alot for the website by making new pages and making the resist templates. You are very bright, but I think you really need to think in terms of what is best for said website rather than what you think is best period. The whole point of Wiki is that it is a community and you are not displaying community-like behavior by ignoring the general consensus. Its not that you aren't helping since you are, but changing those pages means that now someone has to at some point go to your userpage, hit "User contributions" and fix everything you did. I don't want you to stop adding or editing since you do a considerable amount of it, but I just want you to do it so we can make the website more synchronized and uniform. --Nynaeve 17:40, 11 June 2006 (PDT)

Well once Gani's template is made the official one, I'll start using that. I still don't like the look of it (compared to mine), but it's at least easier to change and I can always propose change in it later.

Until then I'm not editing full item pages (only parts) unless they're already improperly formatted. The exception is with those key pages... I still don't know what the "correct" format was supposed to be...

Anyways, I'll probably go back and edit my contributions myself, so don't worry about it. ~ Karuberu 18:26, 11 June 2006 (PDT)

That would be great if you would do that. --Nynaeve 18:59, 11 June 2006 (PDT)

Oh and as far as I knew about those keys, I thought they were all done so they dont really need an actual template. Just needed to follow the examples of the previously done ones. *shrugs* Supposedly the only thing inaccurate in the old format of all those keys was the position of the r/e icons which Chris fixed on the Davoi one, so I suppose now that is the way it should be.

He was trying to make a template for food but we can't figure out how to input color into the wiki format of the template and make it work... wiki apparently cant have either a template in a template or the in it... He is alot better at it than I am and even he is slightly baffled by that one. Might have to make the template with all the top info and manually add in the bottom stats for the food outside of template just so you can have the colors in it... But eventually those templates will be made... I believe he has added all the food already since he was the one to go through the entire cooking craft page and add the items and make sure everything is right... So I am guessing its not super necessary to have that one right now considering all food is currently done. If we do find new foods we can just go off the current pages we have to get it done.

As for the rest of the templates, I am sure they will be made in time. I personally still want the current furniture one prettied up and made into said pretty template. But that is just me. --Nynaeve 21:09, 11 June 2006 (PDT)

I wasn't looking for a wiki template for the keys, just an article template or a good example of one. I guess I should have just copied the existing format from one key instead of trying to make something that looked nice to set as the standard for the keys (you'd think I have learned by now not to try anything new, eh?).

I'd still like to see the key pages having maps and/or treasure information on them though... ~ Karuberu 12:48, 12 June 2006 (PDT)

Use: Davoi Chest Key as an example. Make the suggestion of adding pictures of the chest spawns in the top right hand corner of the chest key pages on the Category talk:Keys Page. I think that adding a small picture in the corner of every chest key page might be a nice addition but I would have to see it first. I know that the regualar pictures of areas dont have chest key spawns on them so it might be useful to add them. But can we do that or do we need permission from ffxiatlas? since that is the only site that I use to get my pictures from.. I dont know if there are others? That is the real question... While it might be a nice addition to the pages - I would need to see how it looks and see if its legally viable. I am not sure if it would work. --Nynaeve 13:12, 12 June 2006 (PDT)

Warning
This is your warning. I have recieved numerous complaints about you changing pages to the template you have created. This needs to stop immediatly. You are showing complete lack of respect for the users who have supported this site for over a year. Stop changing pages to your format or you will be banned from making any further edits on the wiki. Your additions are appreciated, but your lack of respect for this community is not. Until the day comes where the majority of of the major editors on this site agree, we will not use your proposed template. I hate for it to have to come to this, but I have had multiple users approach me concerning this, as well as other administrators. You have completely disreguarded the use of discussion pages and taken it upon yourself to start a mission to change things to your proposed templete. I'm not sure you understand the amount of hours that people have put into making this site what it is. Stop now, or you will be banned. --Ganiman 10:35, 12 June 2006 (PDT)

Haha... You make it sound like I'm destroying the site. I asure you, I'm not.

Ever since I was told about and read the Item Template, I haven't edited a single page from the Item Template format to mine. The only pages I've edited to my format were already in another improper format (such as the old item template format) or were blank/nonexistent. Sure, this may not help the site, but it sure as hell doesn't damage it.

Oh, and I completely understand the number of hours that people have put into this site (must be in the hundreds, possibly thousands). If I didn't edit the pages I have edited then someone else would have had to (as they were already in an incorrect format). So the only thing I have done is waste my own time (if you'd like to think of it that way), not that of others.

Feel free to ban me if you feel that this is wrong, but banning someone for doing no harm seems stupid to me.

PS. Your warning is late anyways, if you'd have read a little, or even looked at my recent edits, you'd see that I've already stopped using my format (with the exception of Venerer Ring, which was using the old item template format, and Pick of Trials, which only had a picture present). Chances are that those "complaints" are from people who didn't bother looking at the history of the page or are complaining about things I did a long time ago. ~ Karuberu 12:34, 12 June 2006 (PDT)