User talk:KyleP/"redirect" conversation

Redirects
If there are any pages not put in capital letters, feel free to inform me and I will Move them to their correct places, like I do everytime I find one, which isn't often at this point in time. Thank you. --20:10, 4 October 2006 (EDT)

Obviously, I've found plenty. -- KyleP 20:12, 4 October 2006 (EDT)

Now if you actually read what we advise you to read before editing: THIS for one, you would have seen that "of" or "for" is not capitalized because grammatically speaking it is not a vital word. "against" would not be capitalized either under the same reasoning. And no we are not wikipedia, we are FFXIclopedia. So please read our rules, our formating before accusing us of not following a given format or way. Thank you. --Nynaeve 20:17, 4 October 2006 (EDT)


 * EDIT: And no, I do not think having all those misspellings running around are sensisble - We have a direct link to the areas on the main page that you can directly click and see ALL CORRECTLY SPELLED AREAS. --Nynaeve 20:20, 4 October 2006 (EDT)


 * It doesn't but it informs you on how to Name pages and shows you that OF is not capitalized like you are claiming it should be. We have detailed out how we spell things quite clearly in that section and there are other places around that say the same thing, I was only giving you one example. --Nynaeve 20:23, 4 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Jailer of Love, you must have spelled it Jailer of love which again isnt capitalizing the L in Love... If you hit Search instead of go when typing in a misspelling you will be able to find it fine... There is no need for excessive redirects. --Nynaeve 20:27, 4 October 2006 (EDT)


 * I see that Jailer Of Love doesn't work, I was refering to your Jailer of love.... It will find it if you do not capitalize the remaining ones if you hit search. I honestly don't know one person that would search capitalizing "of", even our normal grammatically incorrect user Ferine hasn't done that... And he is one of the worst spellers/grammar users here - God love him cuz I for some reason do lol. The point is, if a person is searching for something manually, they aren't going to be going around capitalizing the words, they will most likely in your case, leave them uncapitalized and therefor the search function does in fact pick them up. And still, I reiterate, right off the main page, we have a link to Category:Areas that will give you all areas. We do not need 2-5 redirects for one place/page. Its not realistically suitable or a smart thing to do, if a person wants to find a page, they can do it if they try and dont just hit Go, it may take a little longer if they can't spell or understand grammar, but it still can be done. --Nynaeve 20:34, 4 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Search Results for jailer of love Yes searching for jailer of love does work. --Nynaeve 20:36, 4 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Search Results for Jailer of love And so does Jailer of love --Nynaeve 20:37, 4 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Do not hit enter or Go - hit Search - it is the button right next to Go. --Nynaeve 20:38, 4 October 2006 (EDT)


 * The point is - we do not need redirects because you can still search for the Item/Place/Mob by using the search button as I have been saying and the other Jr Admin has said. Search is just a one click difference and because this is active and available for usage and you can find what you are looking for while still brutalizing the page name, we do not in fact need redirects for everything with more than one word. And, a sane person if they cant find something by hitting enter, they would then hit search. If you try and dont suceed, try, try again. --Nynaeve 20:43, 4 October 2006 (EDT)


 * While, yes I know that it searches for it automatically - you were not seeing the search results below the misspellings so I was giving you an alternate way to find them and explaining if others like yourself didn't see said search results there is in fact another way. But apparently you have been seeing those search results and making a pointless arguement throwing stuff in from the actual wikipedia which doesn't hold sway here (Especially an argument with so many misspellings) that I feel I just wasted my time trying to explain something to you. --Nynaeve 20:48, 4 October 2006 (EDT)


 * I didn't say you mispelled, I said, as you can see above the argument itself was full of misspellings. It wasn't taken from our site - it was taken from a site that as I said doesn't hold sway here, especially since they obviously can't even articulate themselves properly. We simply do not want incorrectly spelled pages made which could then allow people to put them into other articles thinking they are okay, and therefor starting this horrible trend of mispellings and grmamar mistakes. And not capitalizing is a grammatical error, you are correct when refering to proper english, I mispoke when I said misspelling, I was simply refering to the fact that the wiki picks it up as a mispelling of the page. Now I understand your fustration over the fact that Go doesn't work exactly as you would like it to, but it does list search results which aid you just the same. Now damn it someone stop posting so I can actually get this in. --Nynaeve 20:59, 4 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Hahahaha.... Ugh... Okay... I sort of enjoyed that too, in a twisted way... but lets not do it again for a while. :cry: Thanks for using the site, we appreciate your patronage. --Nynaeve 21:08, 4 October 2006 (EDT)

It isn't sensible to create a redirect for every permutation of spelling/capitalization. The search function works just fine for that. I just looked up "Jailer Of Love" and it found the page for Jailer of Love, so there are no problems there, one just has to spell it correctly. If one is unable to spell correctly, they should be looking it up the old fashion way, not using the search function. --Chrisjander 20:24, 4 October 2006 (EDT)

I keep trying different permutations of Jailer of Love, and it keeps finding it. So unless it's spelled incorrectly, it should work. --Chrisjander 20:40, 4 October 2006 (EDT)

Basically what we're saying is, its not broken, so we have no reason to fix it. The "Go" button is irrelevant, because if it doesn't find it with "Go", it automatically Searches as if you had hit the "Search" button. So there's no reason to take up space on the server if they can find it just a click away. --Chrisjander 20:44, 4 October 2006 (EDT)

Because the "Go" button works just like when you spell it correctly and press Enter; it takes you straight to the page. If you spelled it slightly differently, it will do a search. --Chrisjander 20:51, 4 October 2006 (EDT)

Against my better judgment I will poke my head in here. All of these searches work - whether by hitting "enter", clicking "go" or clicking "search". While the redirects will negate one additional click to get to the desired article, it has some negative consequences as well - most notably for me, it makes it so that a mispelling in another article is considered a valid link, hiding the fact that there is a misspelling. When there is no mispelling redirect, the newly made link will be red and basically highlight the fact that the desired link is misspelled. Redirects are helpful when a page is moved and we don't want to manually change all of the linking articles, but to add them in simply to avoid one click when you get the search result page is unnecessary. --Gahoo 20:56, 4 October 2006 (EDT)
 * EDIT. Same goes for capitalization. --Gahoo 20:58, 4 October 2006 (EDT)

See you again soon! :p --Gahoo 21:05, 4 October 2006 (EDT)