User talk:Charitwo/Archive2

Trial By/by
OMG ... you just did the exact opposite of everything I did this morning on the "Trial by" quests. The "By" in all of those needs to be lower case. Do you want to go back and revert everything, or do you want me to? --Mierin 17:22, 20 March 2007 (EDT)


 * The edit should be to make the title of the article correct. "By" is a preposition, and should be lowercase.  In all titles, articles and prepositions should lower case unless at the start.  --Mierin 17:27, 20 March 2007 (EDT)


 * I didn't "start" anything. Someone else this morning was doing the exact same thing you are.  And I had to undo all his changes.  I asked him to then point me to the articles that had incorrect names so I could fix the article, not the links.  --Mierin 17:31, 20 March 2007 (EDT)\


 * As I stated, I didn't know what all needed to be fixed. I expected Japolo to put Move tags on them all, and I'd fix them later.  --Mierin 17:42, 20 March 2007 (EDT)


 * Forums Post I just made re: capitalization --Mierin 17:42, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

Just throw a on them. --Mierin 17:36, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

Redirects
Those re-directs were made because the one's you made don't go anywhere "Trial By Fire" is not a quest -Heretic mkII@ffxi 18:52, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

User Pages
I know you're just fixing broken links, but I'm just forewarning you, it is not advisable to edit other peoples' User pages. Although it is not forbidden, you may get in trouble if someone gets upset with you having done so. I can tell you that I, for one, don't want anyone editing my user pages whether there are broken links or not. I have already admonished Chrisjander for editing my Archives for broken links. It is best if you just leave User pages alone. --Mierin 11:25, 21 March 2007 (EDT)


 * I know, he told me. I'm just warning you that you may get some real hostile reactions.  That's why I say, although it is not forbidden, it is highly unadvisable.  In fact, I would recommend that you not do it.  But I will not stop you.  And, as a personal note, even if I have a broken link on my User page or any of the subpages, please do not edit them.  --Mierin 11:32, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

AfD
Please do not bump AfD discussions. It is not needed. --Gahoo 18:40, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

Embedded video
This has been enabled on the forums for a very long time. See: this topic. --Ganiman 10:57, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Image:TemplarSabatons.JPG
Oops looks like we were both uploading a new version of Image:TemplarSabatons.JPG at the same time lol, can you delete out the old version? :) --Wayka 14:16, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

IRC
[15:27] *** n00b6349 has joined #FFXIclopedia. [15:27] *** n00b6349 is now known as Charitwo. [15:28] Charitwo: Ganiman or Meirin here? [15:29] *** Charitwo has signed off IRC (Quit: Today is a good day to chat.).

Need to give us a little more than two minutes to respond. We're both at work, and don't monitor constantly, but we do check in. Whatcha need? --Mierin 15:32, 22 March 2007 (EDT)


 * NP --Mierin 15:35, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Cannot be sold! vs. Cannot be sold to NPCs.
It's not a good idea to edit a page for such a minor thing, especially since there's no "correct" way to write it (currently). I could say your way is wrong because an exclamation point is unneccessary and that it's not specific enough; it's a matter of opinion.

If you'd like to set a standard, make a discussion on the FFXIclopedia talk:How to use the Item Template and other useful Editing Tips page. Otherwise, I'd leave it alone, unless you're editing for another reason as well. ~ Karuberu 15:56, 22 March 2007 (EDT)
 * I understand what you're saying, I was just suggesting that you try to set a standard through discussion, rather than by attempting to change every page by yourself. ~ Karuberu 16:10, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Well, looks like you're not going to take my advice... I started the discussion for you, join it here. ~ Karuberu 21:05, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

Too much time
Just in case my sarcasm didn't carry well across the internet, I was half joking when I said that >.> One could argue I have "too much time on my hands" for the simple fact that my playtime in FFXI is 340 days. If anything, I was just looking at the huge volume of edits you were doing and thinking to myself, "If that were me doing all those edits, I would be stressed out right now". I'm always looking for ways to reduce my stress level :) But anyway, I wasn't trying to imply that you should not continue to edit the wiki, lol.  Just that it shouldn't be something that stresses you out.  If it doesn't stress you out, then edit your heart out :)  --Divisortheory 22:03, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

bastok map
We had used the BEB maps for a while before using the ones at Atlas. This one from BEB identified the airship port. --Gahoo 11:23, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

Re:Taten-Bilten &
I amazed by how quickly that all went.. Or maybe I'm just slower because I'm tired at the moment.

As for, thank you for telling me about that. ._.; I wasn't sure if it really applied to images, but for some reason, it never occurred to me that I could just reupload images with the proper names. --Lunarcurtain 14:30, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

Also, when "moving" images by reuploading them under the proper name, if you could copy the original upload info (see Image:Taten-Bilten.jpg for how I put it there), that will make sure people won't be mad about it, and retains the history. --Chrisjander 14:34, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

User:Oscurodrago
I think he's an ESL player, and spanish is his first, so that may be why he didn't understand the message when he got it. I think it will be fine that you changed it for him. --Chrisjander 17:02, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

AfD Redirect
If you mark an article for deletion, you must start a discussion on the talk page. Talk:Hand_to_Hand --Ganiman 17:04, 26 March 2007 (EDT)


 * I'm finding numerous articles and images for deletion, that have no discussion associated with it. It is impossible to review the merits of the delete tag without discussion.  Just putting the comment in the edit history isn't enough.  You need to go to the talk page and add a subheading ==Article for Deletion== and then place your explanation for why it should be deleted.  --Mierin 13:02, 2 April 2007 (EDT)


 * You are still doing this. Please place a discussion on the talk page.  --Mierin 13:46, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

There should be a discussion for all Deletions. Not all Redirects should be up for Speedy Deletion. For example, see the Talk:Hand_to_Hand/Requested_Delete. I have referred Gahoo to this discussion. The only way another person can protest the speedy deletion is via Discussion. Please make a discussion section for all deletion, speedy deletion or not. If you believe that it should be a speedy delete, put it on the discussion page. --Mierin 13:58, 11 April 2007 (EDT)


 * The main reason for the discussion is that whether it is a Speedy Delete or not, Admins don't see the delete unless it appears in the Articles for Deletion category. We then review the discussion for the merits, or to add comments.  If there is no discussion, and the only comments are in the page history, we will easily miss the reasons.  We will not miss the reasons if it is in the discussion section.  --Mierin 14:01, 11 April 2007 (EDT)


 * I don't recall ever saying that an AfD discussion should not be started. The Deletion Policy contemplates a discussion - even for speedy deletions.  I may effectuate a speedy deletion if I happen to see one that is warranted, even where there was no discussion, but that does not change the fact that a discussion should have been started.  --Gahoo 14:22, 11 April 2007 (EDT)


 * I reviewed the discussion on your archives. Chrisjander's statements were incorrect, and I have referred him here to review this discussion.  --Mierin 14:29, 11 April 2007 (EDT)


 * I reviewed the second discussion from your archives and can see the confusion. When I referenced the "comment for the edit (in which you add the tag)", I meant your comment under the article for deletion discussion on the talk page, not the summary of edit on the regular page when you add the deletion tag.  My choice of words were inarticulate and obviously confused you.  --Mierin 15:52, 11 April 2007 (EDT)


 * I have been referred to this discussion, and I see where my comments have caused this. First, I'm sorry.  I was using it as a temporary measure to get through many unnecessaries as I could, while we were both editing together.  I should have elaborated and collaborated with you, so that you knew it was just a temporary "working together to get stuff done" thing.  So to conclude, I apologize again, and I will make sure to let you know the full extent of my editing intentions in the future if we need to get alot of stuff done in a short amount of time. --Chrisjander 20:46, 13 April 2007 (EDT)


 * Subcomment: When you're just going through stuff yourself, follow the normal Deletion procedure and create a discussion so that any admin or user can come in and contribute. Thanks ^^ --Chrisjander 20:47, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

Vilma
Vilma exists, and drops the ring. A screenshot was taken a long time ago during an official Square Enix event that took place on Atomos. During the event, players were expressly forbidden to leave a certain area. One person did, however, and took the Airship to Kazham and went to Rose Garden's spawn point. Vilma was up, the person soloed it as NIN and it dropped the ring. He was later disqualified from the competition. --Divisortheory 14:16, 27 March 2007 (EDT)

Verification?
I think just one person isn't enough, regardless of his connections (unless he himself were from SE). This would require verification from another party. --Chrisjander 14:47, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

You said one of his LS mates works for SE. Second hand info needs to be verified. --Chrisjander 15:24, 29 March 2007 (EDT)


 * The issue of whether or not he actually works for SE would also need to be verified, I think. --Divisortheory 15:25, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

Yes, it most certainly can be added with the verification tag. --Chrisjander 15:58, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

Reverting images
Can't revert images, you have to reupload. --Chrisjander 20:24, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

No, the command doesn't work. The button is there, but it fails when you try it. It be broke :(. Speaking of broke...FFXIclopedia:Software Limitations  --Chrisjander 20:35, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

Re: Chrisjander
Actually, heading the comment with 'lol' makes it derisive. They're openly mocking my level, and suggesting that the fact that I'm not level 75 somehow impacts my ability to effectively be an admin, as if it's a black mark on my credibility. That sort of unprovoked personal attack shouldn't be tolerated. No one should be mocked on the wiki, for any reason. --Chrisjander 12:19, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

White Mage Merit
Your suggestion about a Merit Section for my White Mage Guide, has been added. White Mage Guide by XsiX --XsiX 13:35, 3 April 2007 (EDT)

Discipilnant
Look again, it's moved. --Chrisjander 15:20, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

Ah, okay, just throw a Pic replace tag on the old image, just in case someone else gets to it before you ^^. --Chrisjander 15:27, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

Redirect for Deletion
Understood. --Joped 13:00, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

Articles for Deletion
Yes, I'm aware of the procedure. Thanks --Divisortheory 12:29, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

Savanna Crab
What's your question? Source? Savanna Crab (Fished) is listed in Alla, somepage lists both as does mysterytour. Not sure if this is what you were asking about. I think the NM is probably not a NM but just a fished mob. --Gahoo 15:22, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
 * I agree. It can be changed to the blue color and maybe even deserves a verifciation flag. --Gahoo 15:34, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

Vandalism bots
I wonder why these vandalism bots were started all the sudden and are just making minor changes like that. Just to be an annoyance? Hopefully they are resolved shortly. --Wayka 15:05, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

Re: WS for Weapon Skill redirect
I apprieciate you personally pointing out the helps links, as I could not find help for creating a redirect anywhere on this site. However, I strongly disagree with your stance that WS/Ws/ws should not be a valid redirect to the category:Weapon Skills page. WS is as much a valid abbreviation as MB in-game, and with the wiki's search function being ... well, less than robust, I thought this redirect would be most helpful to the people who use this abbreviation. --IEscape 15:20, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

Dhalmels
If Dhalmel is also the plural form, then why is the category called Category:Dhalmels? Regardless, do you have any official proof of this? --Alephnot 13:56, 13 April 2007 (EDT)


 * "Dhalmel" is far more similar to "Camel" and "Llama" than "Moose" or "Deer"--both in word and animal form--and "Camels" and "Llamas" are the correct pluralizations. (Additionally, M-W reports that "deers" is actually a valid pluralization: http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/deers .)  Given that you have no official (i.e. SE-provided) proof, just your own conjecture, I'm going to change it back. --Alephnot 14:17, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

SE calls them "dhalmels" here: "Tarutaru farmers also raise rabbits knowns as "rarabs," while the Mithra in Windurst Woods raise towering dhalmels." However, they have made inconsistencies with plural forms and whether certain stuff are capitalized, good examples include Quadavs (Quadav)/Tonberry (Tonberries)/Qutrubs (qutrub)/Qiqirns (Qiqirn) on some beast-made items and Lamia (Lamiae) in some cutscenes (not including when Qiqirn/Megomak say Lamia, as they do not say things correctly). (Note: words in 's are the more common spellings.) Anyway, went off on a tangent there but if anyone can find more instances of dhalmel plural and see what is used more often that would certainly help over using real animals to determine something about a fantasy species. --Joped 10:33, 14 April 2007 (EDT)


 * Papaka Grass says "A grass favored by the dhalmel." in its description. Not sure if that's plural or not though. --Joped 10:39, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

Category: Beasts
Yeah, I was just finishing up at work when I posted it. :x --Goddess 07:37, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

Monsters in Family
there was a discussion about this on the forums. it was agreed by several people that it would be quite to have listings of mobs by level and zone so you didn't have to open up all the pages listed at the bottom in order to find suitable mobs for whatever purpose you liked. i've done quite a few of these already; i add them as i get time at work and have been doing so for about 2.5 months. --Eleri 13:56, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

Nemain cuff notes
Sorry dont know how to take the transparent background off. If you could send me some instructions I'd be happy to update it again.

Dynamis Mobs
i have quite a clear understanding of what mobs are and aren't NMs in dynamis, as evidenced by the fact that i've been putting them in their proper places on their respective category:mob type pages. it was a simple copy and paste error as i was fixing omissions; honestly, must you reprimand me for every edit i make? how about you not classify dynamis mobs' avatars or wyverns as the same classification as their masters, as i fixed five instances of yesterday? everyone makes mistakes, fix them silently and move on as... such is the nature of the wiki. no need to reprimand people for every perceived mistake. --Eleri 10:19, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

Re: Personal information
um yep ^^ Don't worry its up to date. If my number changes I'll update it ^^ --Poof 17:21, 20 April 2007 (EDT)

Yo
I've been using the Show Preview feature. Several times in fact, and then saving my work when I'm content with a fair bit of progress, because every once in a while the wiki fails to accept a large entry.

Thanks for the help, but I think I've got a handle on it. --Greix 17:41, 20 April 2007 (EDT)