User talk:Wotever/Gude:Astral Flow Party

It's bad enough to see this in game, but now someone put for the effort to advertise it.

"I have done this so many times and taught others how to do it after I have earned more than 10 million Gil by selling leech spots and holding for 150~250k. The best exp rate was completing a 60,000 exp run every 45 min. If I can do it, you can too and maybe even better!"

That pretty much says it all. This is depravity at it's worst. It's not about being jealous, it's about being a good sport and doing things legit. The fact that you "sell leech spots". The game isn't all about gil and exp, the fact that you're cheating the system, and SE hasn't done anything yet, doesn't make it acceptable.

Exactly what is benefit of this form of partying for the game as a whole? Why would this page even be acceptable for wiki? Similar pages, such as, Power Leveling, in the past have been removed. I see little difference between this and being PLed through levels, as both scenarios involve leveling in a manner that was never the original intent of the game. Wiki needs to destroy this page, doesn't anyone have integrity in the game anymore?--DarkTrance 02:39, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

If you wish to exp old style then do so, but this doesn't mean everyone must do it the way YOU LIKE it to be... the reason I posted this is after seeing a lot of people having trouble making an Astral Flow Party successful.

"It's not about being jealous, it's about being a good sport and doing things legit." about doing things "legit" the GM said nothing about this, it is legal, we are not taking advantage of glitches or hacking, in fact they said it is within our right to practice this if we wish. and about "jealousy" a great possibility exist, me think~

"The game isn't all about gil and exp" true, gil and exp is almost like 60% of the game and the rest is other stuff... do a /sea all, you'd find people either seeking a party, farming, exping, or afk selling.

"the fact that you're cheating the system, and SE hasn't done anything yet, doesn't make it acceptable."

Because you think it is cheating it became now unacceptable... sorry to tell you this, but SE runs the show not you, and so far SE gives a thumbs up for Astral Flow Party!

"Exactly what is benefit of this form of partying for the game as a whole? Why would this page even be acceptable for wiki?"

With all respect the answer to the first question is too clear any retard can figure it out.. hello .. speed leveling. Why do wiki accept this; well if you haven't noticed this website was designed to share info, knowledge and experience about the game.

Lastly if you disapprove of this, ok then that's your opinion but doesn't mean you must stop people from doing it or dictate how they should play the game, it's their characters they are free to do wotever they like with it.--wotever September 9, 2009

60%.... I think we are playing different games. This shows a complete lack of integrity. This experience isn't earned, it's handed out in free samples. The people you invite in to these groups are learning nothing about their jobs, will have no real experience in situations outside of ill-gotten merits. And the fact that your "selling spots" only reflects your disreputable motives.

Most of the camps your are using are ideal solo camps for jobs struggling to find exp, and your marketing them, occupying mass quantities of mobs, and chasing out anyone who doesn't have enough gil to pay. It's like selling water, and telling anyone without enough gil that they'll have to stay thirsty. Just because SE hasn't yet cracked down doesn't make this a correct or legit way of earning experience. I've more respect for RMT.--DarkTrance 20:26, September 9, 2009 (UTC)