Thread:QEagleStrikerp/@comment-195370-20170731130856/@comment-195370-20171121012756

More brief reply than intended: - Why did you include Voidwatch under "Story"? I haven't played Voidwatch yet, but I never heard of it having a story of any kind, much less one comparable to the other entries listed under "Story" I know it's not a set of mission expansions, but it is the longest quest chain in the game, with a lot of plot that has a decent bearing on Vana'diel. It certainly has more than the 'Add-On Scenarios' and was released in the period after the conclusion of WotG and before SoA (when we didn't know we were getting SoA), so felt like a cross-expansion wrap-up without being an expansion in of itself. If you feel strongly it shouldn't be there, ok, but I'd ask first that you have a look at the content to see my PoV. - Why did you resort "Quests" into "Activities"? I think most of the quests, especially the questlines, do have some story and are not really an activity I feel Story should be for the major plot arcs. Sure, quests contain a wealth of lore and character background, but they're there to flesh out the world, not carry it. Also, a lot of quests have little story and are means-to-an-end for their rewards, whereas all Missions have story. - Why did you include the page "Stats" under "Combat"? It's very short and I don't think it's necessary ^^" The stats page is trash and needs to be written in full. Stats are the foundation of the entire combat side of the game though. I agree that in its current form it's not relevant, but I'd hope an editor somewhen might like to take it on. - Why did you replace "Beast Strength Chart" with "Bestiary"? In my opinion, "Bestiary" doesn't contain much useful information whereas the Beast Strength Chart is vital for any BST/BLU Not something I did consciously. The BSC is linked directly from the BST and BLU pages, so if vital to those to jobs, it is referred to for them in their correct place. I'd suggest that actually the layout and information of the BSC should be incorporated into an expanded Bestiary page; a merge, if you will. - Is it really useful to include the page "Facilities"? I think we may do better to sort those entries into other categories Ran out of space on "Activities" and tried to come up with a way of dividing Activities into groups of less than eleven. No problem if you can think of a better way to organise them. - I think you probably just didn't know this, but we do have a page for PvP content we can link to, though it is rather short: Conflict Conflict is talked about in-game as the way in which the three starting city-states had competition without being at war, that was revived when adventurers became prevalent again (at the start of the game). It refers only to Brenner and Ballista. PvP is a certain style of play, which encompasses those listed, is a term everyone's familiar with and is a standard part of most, if not all, MMOs so it's in easy reach for the curious to see all forms in which it takes (of course, the true PvP - HNM camping - no longer exists!) - Should we really call that last category "Older Content"? ^^' I'm sure we can come up with something that doesn't make it sound like you should never click those links xD some of those are also still played, e.g. BCNMs and the three Story-assisting types Assault, Campaign Ops and Coalition Assignments which are vital to do in order to progress in their main storylines Edit: If we want to link to Sky, Limbus and Einherjar, we should do so on their respective Endgame categories. Also, we'd need Dynamis as well since you need it for Relic Weapons Happy to rename it. I don't want to include any content that can be completed solo on autoattack with 5x iLv 119 alter-egos as 'Endgame' though (Kirin goes down in about 1min on autoattack). Basic iLv 119 is vendor-purchased as of last month, which a few ppl weren't aware of. I had Dynamis under endgame because, before that point, ADL was still a challenge (need to drop in and see the challenge on it now). I'll replace it with Dynamis-Divergence for sure. - And should we include Besieged? I mean, it's a battlefield type of content and we have a lot of that type that we didn't link to on the Top Bar. If we link Besieged, we should link pretty much every other Event (Category:Events) from that page as well which I wouldn't recommend as that would produce a lot of entries xD Same goes for the BCNMs, ENMs and ZNMs of course I'd be happy to put all of the events up there. I don't think there are too many missing that stand alone (Delve being a big omission I can see). We can see if it is too much though, space-wise. - Why did you remove the "Special Events" entry? I love those events and they are really something that falls under "Exploring FFXI" if you ask me XD I have pretty much everything from every event - I love them too. Because they are time-limited and they have a dedicated section on the front page when they are active, it didn't make sense to me to put a generic link on the top bar. Can put it back in np. Overall, I think some of the changes were fine, but now we again have a lot of entries linking to nowhere (e.g. "Facilities) and I really tried to only use valid links xD. After you answer above questions, I will once again try and resort the Top Bar Layout so that both of us are satisfied with it. So there's a core point here, which is that this site was made in '05, updated through '09 as the game grew and then all but abandoned whilst the game went through its most relevant changes (to the current state of play) from '10 to '15. Rather than try to work with what we've got, I'd like to ensure an updated structure is in place so that old pages can be renamed/merged/moved and new pages can be created. I've been chatting with Karu about Categories and Templates which form the underlying support of the structure and hope to move it all forward together. Edit: Btw, I think the page "New Player Guides" is very useful! I may add one or two additional as well :) Also I think it's cool that you also linked Player Guides over on BG wiki, maybe that'll show them that we don't want a rivalry between both sites ... They know I have no time nor inclination for any rivalry. I was granted permission from the guide's creator to link to it - the informal interwiki policy was agreed that articles and files are not to be copied, but guides can be linked. The divisive issue with this site amongst the community stems from the perceived behavior of the site's creators up to the day they sold it to Wikia and moved on. It has been an undying behemoth in the interceding years, but hopefully our collaborative work can breathe new life into it and ensure all of the work done by the editors still here doesn't go to waste.

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