Talk:Strange Apparatus

There is a project recording the rates on the various items from the SA at http://www.acewashere.thewebpage.net and a post on alla listing a lot of them to. http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=11;mid=113532200010329929;page=1;howmany=50#m1165271828290854105 --1.quos.vita.habitum.captivus

I traded infinity core and blue chip in crawler's nest and got a water cluster. This guide says it should ask for a password too and it didn't ask me. Ganiman

You're supposed to check the apparatus normally to get the password dialog. I've already described what's neccesary in the revamped entry, if you haven't looked already. XD --Maledict 00:24, 8 Jan 2006 (PST)

Note: Please don't edit article with comments and questions. That is what the discussion page is for. --Mierin 16:32, 27 March 2006 (PST)

I see why I added that "muddled contraction" now. I didn't know how to do the piped links, and I was trying to make the link work. I guess I wasn't aware there still wasn't an article for "Infinity Core" yet. My fix didn't work because there was no article, so I guess I changed the wording to ghetto-rig it since I didn't know the coding. ;3 Rudeness was not neccessary.

A clarification on "day opposite its element" is also still needed, and the information about Rune Weapons being unique to each apparatus is entirely wrong. I leave it to Maledict to make these adjustments, but please know they've been very misleading to myself and other players I've spoken to. --Chacharu 20:28, 1 April 2006 (PST)

(This is my first time using this so please don't murder me if I make a mistake)

Anyway, I've played around with the some Strange Apparatus stuff, mostly the one in Gusgen Mines, but a few runs to other places (Mines are just faster to get to). From what I've seen in my tests, the weapons don't appear to be "unique" excatly. The Rune Chopper is by far the most common in the Gusgen Mines, but I've also gotten a few Rune Axes, and one Rune Bow. Also I came up with some Rune Arrows and Bangles, but those seem possible for every apparatus.

Also, a note about the elemental day, I will soon be recording my data, but the trend seems to be that "common" items come most on the MATCHING elemental day (Earth = Earths day, Fire = Fires day, etc.) where as the day the element is WEAK (Earth < Wind, Fire < Water, etc.) seems to bring a combonation of Rune Weapons and Common Items, about equal. The STRONG elemental day (Earth > Thunder, Fire > Ice, etc.) appears to bring mostly the items in a sort of half-way area, Arrows, Flowerpots, and Bangles.

Again, all my elemental info is UNRECORDED data, that's just how it appeared to me. I'll check back later and document every trade from now on, including Moon status. --Svak 21:37, 15 August 2006 (EDT)

Just traded a pair of cores and green chips to the Strange Apparatus in Ordelle's Caves, got 6x rune arrows and a rune bow. Was traded on Windsday. --Stiker 22:23, 6 February 2007

The aritcle mentions the Ranguemont Pass Strange Apparatus being gray and unusable. I have not tried this yet but it might be possible to operate it by trading the gray chip used in CoP 3-5 to it. --Ruby 17:18, 3 May 2007 (GMT)


 * I'm in Ranguemont Pass right now, and there's nothing to target in the Strange Apparatus room to trade a gray chip to. I'm only on CoP 2-5, so I suppose it's possible that something targetable appears later in the missions, but it seems unlikely.  Seral 20:02, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

Storyline?
These things have always puzzled me since I saw my first on in Crawlers Nest.

Do these fit into the storyline in any way?

They're built of the typical ancient white cement seen all around Vana'D but you need the hearts of the Dynamis statues in order to make them function; I've no idea how Zilart and Diabolos really cross paths on this.

Given that, I'd love to know when these were actually implemented into the game.

Am I just over thinking this and is it really just a neat way of earning different weapons?